Originally posted by abhilegend
How's Carol stronger? Fan calculations don't count.Thor has no feats even close to oneshotting Atom Smasher. He can't even oneshot Loki.
So based on what both of them did on screen, stopping a hypersonic giant missle is better than lifting that statute. It’s simple as that.
Originally posted by relentless1
There was a point where Adam took the kid gloves off to be sure, when they were fighting in the apt Hawk was outmatched
Nah, that was just Hawkman being forced to fight in an enclosed space where his wings and lack of flight hindered him. The guy obviously needs space to move, whereas BA is a lot more compact and can easily fly around without needing to flap wings.
In any case, yes Hawkman lost to BA, but the point I'm trying to make is that Hawkman still landed multiple shots on BA despite BA's superspeed and BA still couldn't knock out Hawkman.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor didn't "tank" anything. It was an implosion, directed by the heat seal of the vibranium spire.
He was literally standing on the Island as it exploded.
Originally posted by carver9
They did mention it and how is that just a powerful rocket when other type of properties (magical) are involved. It was also mentioned that Adam was weakened in the beginning due to sleeping for 5k years and was slowly adapting.
As far as we know Eternium just made it more powerful.
Thor on the other hand got KOd for far less time taking the full force of a star for a few minutes.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
He was literally standing on the Island as it exploded.As far as we know Eternium just made it more powerful.
Thor on the other hand got KOd for far less time taking the full force of a star for a few minutes.
It was said on screen to be something that could harm Adam. He was hit by regular rockets along with everything else and it did absolutely nothing to him. Also, Kurse hit Thor with a Boulder making him bleed. Thor also got his eye stabbed out. Loki was also able to stab him. All of these attacks are less than star level. All Adam would have to do is grab something sharp, use his speed and stab Thor through the face for the easy win.
Originally posted by carver9
It was said on screen to be something that could harm Adam. He was hit by regular rockets along with everything else and it did absolutely nothing to him. Also, Kurse hit Thor with a Boulder making him bleed. Thor also got his eye stabbed out. Loki was also able to stab him. All of these attacks are less than star level. All Adam would have to do is grab something sharp, use his speed and stab Thor through the face for the easy win.
Loki stabbed Thor with Gungir then later on with one of his own daggers. It's not like they were just random sharp stuff lying around.
Originally posted by carver9
I know this but since Darth is acting like every rocket is equal not factoring in Adam being injured by a rocket that had special properties, why can't I do the same to Thor? Every rocket equals the same rocket so I'm guessing every blade equals the same blade.
Ok fair enough. I disagree with the whole "every blade equals the same" so I'll leave you two to argue about the missile.
I can't recall whether that rocket was actually an eternium rocket or just a regular missile. I'll weigh in after I get a chance to recheck it.
Originally posted by Guestdude
Black Adam has no official numbers to prove his strength if you try and quantify it, it’s automatically a fan calculationSo based on what both of them did on screen, stopping a hypersonic giant missle is better than lifting that statute. It’s simple as that.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
He was literally standing on the Island as it exploded.As far as we know Eternium just made it more powerful.
Thor on the other hand got KOd for far less time taking the full force of a star for a few minutes.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Ok fair enough. I disagree with the whole "every blade equals the same" so I'll leave you two to argue about the missile.I can't recall whether that rocket was actually an eternium rocket or just a regular missile. I'll weigh in after I get a chance to recheck it.
Originally posted by carver9
I know this but since Darth is acting like every rocket is equal not factoring in Adam being injured by a rocket that had special properties, why can't I do the same to Thor? Every rocket equals the same rocket so I'm guessing every blade equals the same blade.
I didnt say every rocket is equal.
The Eternium one clearly had more effect on BA.
Just saying no one mentioned weakness.
Originally posted by carver9
It was said on screen to be something that could harm Adam. He was hit by regular rockets along with everything else and it did absolutely nothing to him. Also, Kurse hit Thor with a Boulder making him bleed. Thor also got his eye stabbed out. Loki was also able to stab him. All of these attacks are less than star level. All Adam would have to do is grab something sharp, use his speed and stab Thor through the face for the easy win.
Kurse was stronger.
Would have to be a metal that can pierce Thor.
Also not in character for BA to randomly use a knife.
Spoiler:
im just joining in yours and abhis lowballing game. Which you have both been doing from the beginning of this debate
Originally posted by abhilegend
The island "imploded", there was no explosion. Even the spire didn't break.
Quit being retarded. He was at ground zero.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because the movie showed how big the monument was.
The island "imploded", there was no explosion. Even the spire didn't break.
It was Eternium
Being bigger doesn’t mean it weights more
For example: A 5 year old is bigger than a 50 Pound dumbbell, but that dumbbell weighs more.
So black Adams feats are not as strong as the Incas in the mcu. Smart hulk has got a better feat than that when he held up the avengers compound with one arm, while I read under giant dibble and filled with water, easily a better feat than black Adams.
If we tried to quantify it using fan calcs mcu would come out on top. If we don’t quantify it, there’s nothing to compare.
Originally posted by Guestdude
Ok, there’s still no stated weight, there’s nothing to compare. It could weigh only a couple hundred tons.Being bigger doesn’t mean it weights more
For example: A 5 year old is bigger than a 50 Pound dumbbell, but that dumbbell weighs more.
So black Adams feats are not as strong as the Incas in the mcu. Smart hulk has got a better feat than that when he held up the avengers compound with one arm, while I read under giant dibble and filled with water, easily a better feat than black Adams.
If we tried to quantify it using fan calcs mcu would come out on top. If we don’t quantify it, there’s nothing to compare.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its a solid stone statue bigger than skyscrapers, how's it only 500 tons? Are you retarded?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you know what implosion means?
It doesnt mean the explosion will magically not touch Thor standing on the Island.
Plus youre talking shit, just his initial lightning blast took out the landscape, and so he was at the centre of total destruction.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And?
It means hes damn strong obviously.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
It doesnt mean the explosion will magically not touch Thor standing on the Island.
There was literally no explosion. The heat seal imploded the island.
Plus youre talking shit, just his initial lightning blast took out the landscape, and so he was at the centre of total destruction.
That was the heat seal working.
It means hes damn strong obviously.
The same show stated She Hulk's limit is one ton. Go figure. The writers don't think like fans.
Originally posted by Guestdude
Ok, clearly you don’t know what examples are. And the point flew over you head. Unless you quantify how much it weights the feat means nothing, because there’s no stats to compare. The only way to quantify it would be to use a fan calc, which you apparently hate doing.