Who in Marvel is equal to Perpetua and her sons?

Originally posted by Enzeru
No, I think that when you talk about Marvel powerhouses, you're often looking at characters, who can warp reality or control atoms and molecules. Sentry, Silver Surfer, Scarlet Witch, Nate Grey, Jean Grey etc. Omega level mutants are essentially cheaters.

And when you talk about DC powerhouses, it's about strength, speed and durability most of the time. Superman, Shazam, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter etc.

Ah, that's because the two main DC guys (Bats and Supes) cheat with their plot armour in every comic they're in, thanks to the 5D imps.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Ah, that's because the two main DC guys (Bats and Supes) cheat with their plot armour in every comic they're in, thanks to the 5D imps.

Have you played the new Gotham Knights game yet? Is it any good? I've been avoiding it, because it's locked to 30 FPS on the PS5. That's unacceptable for an action game in 2022.

Spoiler: Batman didn't have his cockroach powers in that game, so he is dead there.

Originally posted by Enzeru

I was always of the opinion that when it comes to reality warping and messing with universes and multiverses, Marvel takes the cake over DC.

if only we care about the opinions of marvel fanboys

if only...

Originally posted by Enzeru
Didn't the Moira personality of Legion put the 616 universe into a box and toss it into fire? I don't think that the upper level cosmics in Marvel struggle to wreck universes, if they feel like it.

I was always of the opinion that when it comes to reality warping and messing with universes and multiverses, Marvel takes the cake over DC.
DC has a focus on strength and speed, while Marvel has a focus on telekinesis / telepathy (which in some instances grants complete control over atoms) and reality warping. The latter abilities are even more hax than whatever the Speed Force can provide.

Originally posted by Enzeru
No, I think that when you talk about Marvel powerhouses, you're often looking at characters, who can warp reality or control atoms and molecules. Sentry, Silver Surfer, Scarlet Witch, Nate Grey, Jean Grey etc. Omega level mutants are essentially cheaters.

And when you talk about DC powerhouses, it's about strength, speed and durability most of the time. Superman, Shazam, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter etc.

DC events in last ten years are nothing but DBZ style power ups. Marvel can't catch up at all.

not one point in the last 60 years of marvel publication history have they come close in term of power to dc

the only time you can sorta make an argument was during the n52 era

it's a completely different ball game now

Her sons can arguably solo all of marvel so it’s tough to say.

damn perma banned after 3 posts...

Originally posted by LordGod
Not just in terms of power, but in terms of their status within the established hierarchy.

Who is Marvel's equivalent of-
*Perpetua
*World Forger
*Monitor (original)
*Anti-Monitor

In terms of power? Yeah. Let's not pretend. Either for Perpetua and her spawn or the Ultimate Ultimates.