Originally posted by Arachnid1
I haven't seen Adam yet, but did they nerf Fate to atoms or something? Any version of Fate should stomp the living holy hell out of any version of Strange.I'll be able to chime in once I see the movie, but it sounds like they did Fate dirty if this is even being considered here.
He does precisely 2 techniques. Tries to trap his opponents in a magic crystal thing (which lasts about 5 seconds before they escape) and makes copies of himself which get stomped.
I just got back from seeing the film a second time and it's definitely a stalemate at best. Dr. Fate as per his name basically sees into the future like Dr. Strange on the Mind Gem only unlike Strange he doesn't need a gem. His techniques both mimic Dr Strange and seem more controlled and stronger, and he seems to have a better connection with the magical beings he summons his powers from. This is not to say that he would stomp Strange, but rather that in this one film, he basically displayed all of Strange's powers (sans Sling Rings of course) on an at least equivalent level, and if we're comparing tactics, Multiverse of Madness made Strange look like an idiot on several levels, so I don't think it would be some automatic overpowering either.
Originally posted by relentless1
Based on feats id say Strange at this point. More versatile with his magic and held his own pretty well with Thanos who had 4/6 stones by that point
Yeah, this is what cinched it for Strange in my opinion. That short battle on Titan trumps anything I recall Fate doing.
I'm still going with stalemate at best. Fate took on Sabaac (who was being amped by the 7 Hell Gods and thus at the very least beyond Doomsday level and potentially Thanos with near-complete IG-level if not higher if we are scaling him with Adam, who would have wiped the floor with Thanos on Titan with his combined unlimited strength and instablitz speed) by himself, at least long enough to free Adam.
Originally posted by Lestov16
I'm still going with stalemate at best. Fate took on Sabaac (who was being amped by the 7 Hell Gods and thus at the very least beyond Doomsday level and potentially Thanos with near-complete IG-level if not higher if we are scaling him with Adam, who would have wiped the floor with Thanos on Titan with his combined unlimited strength and instablitz speed) by himself, at least long enough to free Adam.
That's comicbook lore though. Sabbac from the movies was never shown to be that powerful.
He did nothing and when he sees into the future, it puts him in a state of not being conscious. He literally pass TF out. So, if you're saying he will see into the future while in combat against Strange, he dies. He never did this during combat. His combat showings are making crystal sh** that everyone escaped from and making copies of himself that did absolutely nothing.