Black Adam vs General Zod

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Originally posted by Robtard
Speaking of, Doomsday would solo every hero in BA at the same time and he's made up of mostly Zod with a sprinkle of Eisenlex's AIDS tainted blood.

He was an amplified Zod.

Black Adams' feats trumps anything we've seen from Zod (or Faora and Namek for that matter).

And unlike Superman, BA looks like he actually knows how to fight instead of just purely throwing haymakers and bullrushing opponents.

His speed feats alone are above Zod's and even the casualness of how he tanks firepower seemed above the Kryptonians.

Black Adam wins this handily.

Zod basically owns here. Stronger, faster and not a pussy ***** whose son was the hero.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Zod basically owns here. Stronger, faster and not a pussy ***** whose son was the hero.

He is a pussy though. He's never won a fight. He lost to an old scientist and an untrained farm boy who ended up killing him.

Originally posted by Lestov16
WTF has Zod done to give him a decisive or even arguable win here? Adam's speedblitz are definitely beyond Kryptonian and Adam can summon lightning attacks powerful enough to destroy entire nations (which is why he was imprisoned by Shazam because he basically went Mount Vesuvius on Paleo-Kandaq)

If we say Zod's powers are almost on par with Superman's, then Zod's faster, as Krytonian speed is greater than Adam's speed. Which was extremely impressive, but it's not faster than being able to hang with the Flash.

Though I do suspect that we ever see a film with Adam and Superman, their speed will be equalized.

Originally posted by tkitna
He is a pussy though. He's never won a fight. He lost to an old scientist and an untrained farm boy who ended up killing him.
yeah but they were from the House of El and descendents of Rao himself. Not just any Scientist and Farmboy. One is the first and greatest Superhero, the other his Dad. Adam is a pussy.

Originally posted by Robtard
If we say Zod's powers are almost on par with Superman's, then Zod's faster, as Krytonian speed is greater than Adam's speed. Which was extremely impressive, but it's not faster than being able to hang with the Flash.

Though I do suspect that we ever see a film with Adam and Superman, their speed will be equalized.

That still leaves the matter of the lightning blast, one of which was so powerful that it nearly wiped out the entire Kandaq population, which is why Shazam imprisoned him. That blast must have been at least Tuskunga level.

Originally posted by Robtard
If we say Zod's powers are almost on par with Superman's, then Zod's faster, as Krytonian speed is greater than Adam's speed. Which was extremely impressive, but it's not faster than being able to hang with the Flash.

Though I do suspect that we ever see a film with Adam and Superman, their speed will be equalized.

We don't share fts but even if we did, he still loses here.

Originally posted by Lestov16
That still leaves the matter of the lightning blast, one of which was so powerful that it nearly wiped out the entire Kandaq population, which is why Shazam imprisoned him. That blast must have been at least Tuskunga level.

Kryptonians can survive nukes at point blank. It knocks them out and drains them, but they survive. That lightning might (and I stress might} tickle a Kryptonian's cornhole.

Carv being awful brave on a forum where he hasn't been humiliated yet.

Carter appears to be class 10-20.
He shrugged off multiple blows of BA and some lightning attacks.
Carter also was able to get multiple hits in on BA.
It's fair to say that Zod is significantly more durable, stronger, and faster than Carter.

Lol. It's crazy how many people here refuse to acknowledge that Zod just DOES NOT HAVE speed feats to match Black Adam. Zod was able to fly at superspeed and do the occasional bull rush at super speed. Black Adam was able to casually move around people who were still as statues and was able to perform more fine-motor tasks like putting a grenade in a person's mouth.

I'm not saying Zod can't hit Adam. He was still hit by guys like Hawkman after all. But let's please drop the nonsense that Zod is faster than him.

I am arguing that Zod could replicate, or come close to replicating Superman's JL speed since Kryptonians share the same powerset due to their same biology. If we don't allow Zod that, then sure, he's way too slow to compete if Adam fights in superspeed the whole time.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
yeah but they were from the House of El and descendents of Rao himself. Not just any Scientist and Farmboy. One is the first and greatest Superhero, the other his Dad. Adam is a pussy.

Zod was the leader of the military. He was a trained soldier. And he lost.

Originally posted by Robtard
I am arguing that Zod could replicate, or come close to replicating Superman's JL speed since Kryptonians share the same powerset due to their same biology. If we don't allow Zod that, then sure, he's way too slow to compete if Adam fights in superspeed the whole time.

There's 2 contrasting ideas to this. Either

1.) We assume Superman has improved since his fight with Zod to his fight with the JLA (either because of experience or because he was ressurrected with a motherbox) - in which case even if we scale Zod to Superman in MoS, neither of them still have any feats to match BA.

Or

2.) We assume that Superman has been at similar power levels throughout all his movies, which means he was as fast in his fight with Zod as he was in his fight with Flash. However, this also means that he can get knocked out by a collapsing oil rig as his durability and strength never increased from his initial movie to his final movie.

If we make the assumption that his durability and strength improved throughout the movies, then we have to assume his speed did too.

Originally posted by Robtard
If we say Zod's powers are almost on par with Superman's, then Zod's faster, as Krytonian speed is greater than Adam's speed. Which was extremely impressive, but it's not faster than being able to hang with the Flash.

Though I do suspect that we ever see a film with Adam and Superman, their speed will be equalized.

I dont see how Adams speed isnt comparable. He was seeing everything in statue form too.

The collateral damage in man of steel is more than enough evidence of Zods superiority. Adam and Hawkman couldn't wreck a room.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Lol. It's crazy how many people here refuse to acknowledge that Zod just DOES NOT HAVE speed feats to match Black Adam. Zod was able to fly at superspeed and do the occasional bull rush at super speed. Black Adam was able to casually move around people who were still as statues and was able to perform more fine-motor tasks like putting a grenade in a person's mouth.

I'm not saying Zod can't hit Adam. He was still hit by guys like Hawkman after all. But let's please drop the nonsense that Zod is faster than him.

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Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
The collateral damage in man of steel is more than enough evidence of Zods superiority. Adam and Hawkman couldn't wreck a room.

Good lord. Seriously, thats your argument? Collateral damage?

Originally posted by cdtm
No, but that's a historic weakness. Same way Kryptonite is assumed as one even if it hasn't been introduced in a story.

How is kryptonite an assumed weakness of Superman and Zod when Batman beat Superman with Kryptonite and Superman beat Doomsday with Kryptonite?