Emperor Palpatine SW vs Emperor of Mankind WH40K

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Emperor Palpatine SW vs Emperor of Mankind WH40K

Both at the height of their power.

Who takes it?

Palpatine couldn't even take Magnus, one of the Emperor's sons, much less the Emperor himself.

Palpatine, because Warhammer is for nerds.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
Palpatine couldn't even take Magnus, one of the Emperor's sons, much less the Emperor himself.

The God Emperor was like classic Marvel skyfather level at least, no?

Originally posted by zopzop
The God Emperor was like classic Marvel skyfather level at least, no?
In the material world? Not really IMO. He has immense psychic powers (but not galaxy busting or anything like that, assuming that's still what classic Marvel skyfather level entails) but physically he's simply too frail. So are his sons. By feats someone like Gladiator could punch their heads clean off their shoulders.

In the Warp he and any sufficiently powerful psyker (like the aforementioned Magnus) are well above that. Cube being at the least, in the Emperor's case probably more given that he can contend with Chaos.

Originally posted by NemeBro
In the material world? Not really IMO. He has immense psychic powers (but not galaxy busting or anything like that, assuming that's still what classic Marvel skyfather level entails) but physically he's simply too frail. So are his sons. By feats someone like Gladiator could punch their heads clean off their shoulders.

In the Warp he and any sufficiently powerful psyker (like the aforementioned Magnus) are well above that. Cube being at the least, in the Emperor's case probably more given that he can contend with Chaos.

Assuming the Force didn't function in The Warp the same as it did anywhere else.

In which case all the power in the world might not matter, if you can't actually manipulate and defend against The Force. Would become a quickdraw in that case.

Further, who's to say Palpatine couldn't likewise become empowered in The Warp? They can do Force Ghosts, so they aren't simply flesh.

Shut the **** up retard.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
Shut the **** up retard.
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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I can't and won't read a CDTM post because I know it's going to be pointless question trolling... probably, and definately retarded!

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Originally posted by NemeBro
In the material world? Not really IMO. He has immense psychic powers (but not galaxy busting or anything like that, assuming that's still what classic Marvel skyfather level entails) but physically he's simply too frail. So are his sons. By feats someone like Gladiator could punch their heads clean off their shoulders.

The problem with feats in Warhammer is that the nature of the Warp is such that it justifies literal interpretations of what would normally be considered poetic licence, e.g.

Desperately the Emperor summons his power and lashes out. Lightning flicker between the combatants. The stench of ozone fills the air. The Emperor leaps forward, sword raised. Weapons clash as the battle is joined on every level: physical, spiritual, psychic.

Bolts of force flicker as mortal gods clash, balancing the fate of the galaxy on every blow. Runesword and lightning claw ring against each other with a sound like thunder. Energies potent enough to level planets are unleashed.

-White Dwarf #131

Originally posted by NemeBro
In the Warp he and any sufficiently powerful psyker (like the aforementioned Magnus) are well above that. Cube being at the least, in the Emperor's case probably more given that he can contend with Chaos.

Not only is this wrong, but it makes no sense whatsoever. The Warp is not a material world, it's shaped souls, belief, and will, and feats don't transfer over from the Warp to the Materium.

Originally posted by cdtm
In which case all the power in the world might not matter, if you can't actually manipulate and defend against The Force. Would become a quickdraw in that case.

Unless you invoke something like the Force Storms from the Dark Empire miniseries (and even then you have an equivalent in Warp Storms), powerful psykers, are generally more potent and well-rounded than Star Wars force-users. Take the time the Emperor forced the legion of Word Bearers to kneel by simply commanding it.
‘I know who it is,’ Argel Tal exhaled the words through clenched teeth. And that’s when the voice hit him, hit them all, in a wave of invisible force.

+Kneel+ it whispered with the power of a hammer to the forehead. There was no resisting. Muscles acted instantly, no matter that many hearts fought not to obey. Argel Tal was one of them. This was not fealty, nor worship, nor service. This was slavery, and his instincts rebelled at the enforced devotion even as he obeyed it.

One hundred thousand Word Bearers kneeled in the dust of the perfect city, rendered prone by Imperial decree. A Legion was on its knees.

- The First Heretic

That would be like Yoda forcing a hundred thousand Siths to kneel. Kind of puts the "these are not the droids you're looking for," to shame, doesn't it?

Originally posted by Astner
Unless you invoke something like the Force Storms from the Dark Empire miniseries (and even then you have an equivalent in Warp Storms), powerful psykers, are generally more potent and well-rounded than Star Wars force-users. Take the time the Emperor forced the legion of Word Bearers to kneel by simply commanding it.
- The First Heretic

That would be like Yoda forcing a hundred thousand Siths to kneel. Kind of puts the "these are not the droids you're looking for," to shame, doesn't it?

No similar feats in current lore then? Just assumed we'd have Legends tier feats by now, because of power creep.

If not, I guess Vader's light years choke of death and the Kylo Ren blaster freeze are the best they have.