Originally posted by SmurphI would say my milk shake brings the Beta's to the yard because it does. I seem to remember you supporting or at least refusing to condemn those islamphophobic comments. Yeah, Beta site assemble, funny stuff.
I would say that he's sorry he hurt youBut, he isn't
Sorry I hurt you. Did you cry over the Oscar speeches like your bestie?
Islam isn't a race, it's an ideology that comes with values that the people on the left should actually condem (homophobia, the role of the woman, treatment of minorities, especially jews). That's the prime example where a lot of "new leftists" have betrayed their own values for inappropriate tolerance towards absolute intolerance.
Originally posted by ParmaniacWhirly doesn't care about Islamophobia... and Islamophobia wasn't a point of discussion in this argument with Astner
Islam isn't a race, it's an ideology that comes with values that the people on the left should actually condem (homophobia, the role of the woman, treatment of minorities, especially jews). That's the prime example where a lot of "new leftists" have betrayed their own values for inappropriate tolerance towards absolute intolerance.
Whirly just desperately needs ODG to be the bad guy. It's a complex.
For reference to the ongoing conversation about free speech, here is an ACLU primer on knowing your free speech rights in America;
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights#im-attending-a-protest
Of note;
Your rights
Your rights are strongest in what are known as “traditional public forums,” such as streets, sidewalks, and parks. You also likely have the right to speak out on other public property, like plazas in front of government buildings, as long as you are not blocking access to the government building or interfering with other purposes the property was designed for.
Private property owners can set rules for speech on their property. The government may not restrict your speech if it is taking place on your own property or with the consent of the property owner.
Counterprotesters also have free speech rights. Police must treat protesters and counterprotesters equally. Police are permitted to keep antagonistic groups separated but should allow them to be within sight and sound of one another.
When you are lawfully present in any public space, you have the right to photograph anything in plain view, including federal buildings and the police. On private property, the owner may set rules related to photography or video.
You don’t need a permit to march in the streets or on sidewalks, as long as marchers don’t obstruct car or pedestrian traffic. If you don’t have a permit, police officers can ask you to move to the side of a street or sidewalk to let others pass or for safety reasons.
People have certainly been arrested from their own home in other countries with weaker free speech laws, but here in the states you can technically raise up a Confederate flag, a desecrated Pride flag, or even a Nazi symbol (Good luck not getting vandalized or ostracized by the entire community).
The permit thing I don't much care for, as that is an infringement in my view. But this is the law,.and the ACLU is in the business of knowing such laws so demonstrators can justly express themselves and their views.
This also sets up a "landed gentry" system in a sense. The homeless will naturally have weaker free speech rights under such a system.
P.S. edit On the flipside, corporations and institutions like Yale will have the most power to control speech as they own the most property, and may set the rules to speech.
To a conspiracy theorist like me this is a HUGE red flag. Can you say "oligarchy", or worse "corporatcy"? Isn't it just convenient that governnent sets rules that benefit Corporations, almost like government answers to them and not the people who own less.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Islam isn't a race, it's an ideology that comes with values that the people on the left should actually condem (homophobia, the role of the woman, treatment of minorities, especially jews). That's the prime example where a lot of "new leftists" have betrayed their own values for inappropriate tolerance towards absolute intolerance.
You have non hatemongering site sources of this?
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Sources for what exactly?
There’s no where in Islamic teaching that say a woman should be prohibited from education. But these people are preventing woman from going to school. Now are they Islamic?
Muslims don’t hate the Jews or Christian’s, they consider them brothers in abrahamic faith. If you want to know where the real hate and the intolerance is, read the Talmud.
So I'm taking more pills because my ****ing left tricep and shoulder and back is sore. Anti-inflammatory. May raise blood pressure and my blood pressure is 140-150/90 at doctors office as is.
Physical therapist says I should take it, wasn't gonna but now I'm feeling it in my left hand, don't wanna end up like the old men with gnarled hands from arthritis.
Blood pressure will probably raise too high just you wait, this is BULLSHIT.
Originally posted by cdtmgo to er, you might be having a Myocardial infarction.
So I'm taking more pills because my ****ing left tricep and shoulder and back is sore. Anti-inflammatory. May raise blood pressure and my blood pressure is 140-150/90 at doctors office as is.Physical therapist says I should take it, wasn't gonna but now I'm feeling it in my left hand, don't wanna end up like the old men with gnarled hands from arthritis.
Blood pressure will probably raise too high just you wait, this is BULLSHIT.
Originally posted by Diesldude
I’ll give you the Taliban for Homophobia and treatment of women but they are a political movement based on their leadership’s interpretation of Islam.There’s no where in Islamic teaching that say a woman should be prohibited from education. But these people are preventing woman from going to school. Now are they Islamic?
Muslims don’t hate the Jews or Christian’s, they consider them brothers in abrahamic faith. If you want to know where the real hate and the intolerance is, read the Talmud.
YEAH but how many jews are Orthodox? 🙂
Zionists tend to be the problem there. Am sure you know about the old Rabbi who essentially said non jews are beasts of burdon, he does not represent the majority beliefs.
Originally posted by cdtm
Don't wind me up like that, I'll believe it. 😱No shortness of breath here, believe me I check and double check for symptoms any time I get a random ache.