Baleman vs. Ivan Drago

Originally posted by NemeBro
h1 is right on this one. Drago's best punch is 2,150 psi, not pounds. Which is to say, the amount of pressure the surface area of his fist is putting out is 2,150 pounds for every square inch. Five thousand pounds with those numbers are frankly a lowball, we're talking anywhere form 8,000 to ****ing 15,000 pounds of force.

WITH THAT SAID, it is fairly obvious that this is a goof on the part of the writers. The average punch of a heavyweight boxer is listed as like 700 psi which is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high. But, if we assume psi was a result of a ****up and they really meant pounds then the 700 figure is actually pretty close to right and Drago's punching power while still insane is no longer greater than the bite force of a ****ing T-Rex lol.

i chose my words poorly for the previous post. meant to say that 2000 p.s.i. is one ton per square inch. but my first post is clear on that, and speaking of:

Originally posted by Bashar Teg

Whilst the figures differ between fighter weight classes inside the squared circle, the average heavyweight boxer can throw a punch between 1,200-1,700 psi. Considering that the average person's hitting force is at 120-170 psi, professional boxers can punch roughly ten times harder than the average human.
-source: google

nah, he started at 1850psi, and was inching past 2100psi at the peak of his training...with the assistance of sterroids.

this site refers to rocky 4 directly:

While this varies between weight classes of boxers, the average heavyweight boxer can deliver a punch between 1,200 and 1,700 psi. At the high end, this is on the same level of pressure as an industrial pressure washer.

https://shortboxing.com/average-boxers-punch-in-psi/

i did no bad math, in fact i did no math at all. 1850psi-2100 psi is crazy strong but most heavyweight boxers are crazy strong.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i chose my words poorly for the previous post. meant to say that 2000 p.s.i. is one ton per square inch. but my first post is clear on that, and speaking of:

this site refers to rocky 4 directly:

While this varies between weight classes of boxers, the average heavyweight boxer can deliver a punch between 1,200 and 1,700 psi. At the high end, this is on the same level of pressure as an industrial pressure washer.

https://shortboxing.com/average-boxers-punch-in-psi/

i did no bad math, in fact i did no math at all. 1850psi-2100 psi is crazy strong but most heavyweight boxers are crazy strong.

I don't know who wrote that article but punching power is measured by amount of force (in pounds) rather than the amount of pressure (psi).

Measuring punching power in psi isn't accurate because it will change depending on a boxer's fist size or glove size, as well as the angle they hit the target, etc. Force on the other hand is far more accurate as all it does is measure how hard you can accelerate a target with your punch upon point of impact.

Bottom line is, a heavyweight boxer with a 1700 lbs. punch is realistic. Not common, but realistic nonetheless. A boxer with a 1700 psi punch is pretty much cartoonish.

i can respect your skepticism, but all i can do is google it since I have neither a p.s.i. punch-machine nor a professional heavyweight boxer friend.

Slightly higher than the average flyweight psi is the bantamweight’s who average between 500-700 psi whilst welterweights are even higher at the 700-1,000 psi region."

https://sqaf.club/how-hard-do-professional-boxers-punch-psi/#:~:text=Slightly%20higher%20than%20the%20average,an%20incredible%201%2C200%2D1%2C700%20psi.

too late to edit: i swear to you I didn't dig this up after embarking on some butthurt bias confirmation search, cherry picking something i like. all i did was:

https://www.google.com/search?q=boxing+psi+average+per+weight+class&oq=boxing+psi+average+oer&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j33i10i160l5.9324j0j4&client=ms-android-oneplus-rvo3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#sbfbu=1&pi=boxing%20psi%20average%20per%20weight%20class

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
too late to edit: i swear to you I didn't dig this up after embarking on some butthurt bias confirmation search, cherry picking something i like. all i did was:

https://www.google.com/search?q=boxing+psi+average+per+weight+class&oq=boxing+psi+average+oer&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j33i10i160l5.9324j0j4&client=ms-android-oneplus-rvo3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#sbfbu=1&pi=boxing%20psi%20average%20per%20weight%20class

Anything more than 2000lb of force (500 psi) is like being able to punch a small car off the ground. I dont see any real human being able to do that.

again, I'm the last person to be irritated by healthy skepticism, but I've seen no compelling evidence to the contrary as of yet. but sure, the article/site might be a bullshit factory, but that's what was there when i searched.

all i can find on youtube are similar videos to the one you mentioned, with irrelevant punchers. in this context, size really does matter a lot, as does training.

i think what's missing from this general discussion is respect for the freakishly lethal punching force of elite heavyweight boxers.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
again, I'm the last person to be irritated by healthy skepticism, but I've seen no compelling evidence to the contrary as of yet. but sure, the article/site might be a bullshit factory, but that's what was there when i searched.

all i can find on youtube are similar videos to the one you mentioned, with irrelevant punchers. in this context, size really does matter a lot, as does training.

i think what's missing from this general discussion is respect for the freakishly lethal punching force of elite heavyweight boxers.

I've never seen (other than movies) a heavyweight punch another heavyweight (1/8 the weight of a car) up in the air.

When normal non athlete’s go into a state where they get hysteric strength, can do crazy things like flip cars and out fight polar bears. It’s no far out of the real of possibility that a professional boxer who does nothing but train their punch force can achieve similar feats with a punch, especially when they remove their limiters(brain trauma)

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil2
When normal non athlete’s go into a state where they get hysteric strength, can do crazy things like flip cars and out fight polar bears. It’s no far out of the real of possibility that a professional boxer who does nothing but train their punch force can achieve similar feats with a punch, especially when they remove their limiters(brain trauma)

Flipping a car is not the same as lifting a car off the ground (which takes more than twice the force). Also flipping a car required two hands. Punching requires one hand.

Did you ever see a heavyweight boxer punch another heavyweight boxer (1/8 the weight of a car) off the ground up into the air?

Dragon kills weakman!