Originally posted by FrothByte
IIRC, Logan was also KO'd by Sabertooth hitting him with a branch. Pretty sure Cap can hit just as hard with his shield if not more.
Originally posted by Robtard
That's right, X-Men (2000), good memory 👆I'm sure the thread starter will claim that feat doesn't count either because it ruins his argument.
^^^You're right.
Originally posted by h1a8
Getting hit by Juggernaut without being koed contradicts all his low showings.
Originally posted by h1a8
Getting hit by Juggernaut without being koed contradicts all his low showings. Wading through machine gun fire without missing a beat.It is silly to use one's low showings against another's high showings. I can make Thing or even Spider-Man beat Superman in that case. It's a form of trolling.
All Juggernaut really did was shoulder block him and then throw him around a bit. And that was enough to knock him down for over a 10 count.
But there are other examples of course, like when he almost got knocked out by falling logs in Origins, or when he was weakening from blood loss in X2 because Deathstrike was cutting him up too fast for his healing to keep up.
These aren't low showings, these are his constant feats. You just don't want to acknowledge that Logan isn't exactly powerful enough to go up against elite Asgardians.
Originally posted by FrothByte
All Juggernaut really did was shoulder block him and then throw him around a bit. And that was enough to knock him down for over a 10 count.But there are other examples of course, like when he almost got knocked out by falling logs in Origins, or when he was weakening from blood loss in X2 because Deathstrike was cutting him up too fast for his healing to keep up.
These aren't low showings, these are his constant feats. You just don't want to acknowledge that Logan isn't exactly powerful enough to go up against elite Asgardians.
Logan was thrown through the house a few times and kicked while he was on the ground. You forgot about that?
Fight is to ko, not down for the 10 count.
This isn't boxing.
Unconscious or dead.
Originally posted by tkitna
Probably loses at 2 and definitely loses going past that.
Originally posted by tkitnaYou are constantly using abc logic. Cap hit Loki multiple times. Logan will hit with the claws and one shot him. Stop debating using faulty abc logic.
OMG. He has a chance against Cap but he is not beating Loki. Loki toyed with Cap who's stats and feats crap on Logans.
Originally posted by RobtardHe can is different than he will.
You think Logan's clone (X-24) can beat Hela. But now Logan can't. *honk* *honk*
Originally posted by h1a8
You are constantly using abc logic. Cap hit Loki multiple times. Logan will hit with the claws and one shot him. Stop debating using faulty abc logic.
Logan will one shot Loki easily. Cap is harder because he has the shield to block. I should have put Loki before Cap.
Remind me again why Logan wasn't able to one-shot Juggernaut or even Mystique?
Originally posted by FrothByteBecause of plot. He didn't even try to stab or slice Juggs. He tried to tackle him lol. He stabbed Mystic in the gut. She recovered.
Remind me again why Logan wasn't able to one-shot Juggernaut or even Mystique?
Stabbing Hela won't do anything. I stated that a million times already.
Originally posted by Robtard
Um, Logan in his prime is superior to X-24, as Logan has 100+ years of fighting experience under his beltUm, you're arguing in two other threads that X-24 soundly beats Hela
*honk* *honk*
Wrong. It's how a character fights, not what experience they have. X24 fights as well as Logan.
Originally posted by h1a8
Because of plot. He didn't even try to stab or slice Juggs. He tried to tackle him lol. He stabbed Mystic in the gut. She recovered.Stabbing Hela won't do anything. I stated that a million times already.
He stabbed Mystique in the gut... only after getting hit multiple times. Had that been Cap, or even worse one of the Asgardians, he would have been getting knocked around silly and wouldn't have the chance to go for a stab.
Just like what happened with Juggs. It's not easy to stab or slice someone when you're too busy getting ragdolled.
Originally posted by FrothByteLogan could have easily sliced Juggs neck area. This is a movie. Characters are protected by plot.
He stabbed Mystique in the gut... only after getting hit multiple times. Had that been Cap, or even worse one of the Asgardians, he would have been getting knocked around silly and wouldn't have the chance to go for a stab.Just like what happened with Juggs. It's not easy to stab or slice someone when you're too busy getting ragdolled.
Originally posted by RobtardThe opponents are irrelevant. The skilled displayed only matters.
Um, Logan has better on screen fighting feats and against much tougher opponents than X-24.You ignore everything that goes against your arguments and invent nonsense.
Originally posted by h1a8
Logan could have easily sliced Juggs neck area. This is a movie. Characters are protected by plot.
Logan wouldn't even get touched by Juggs if he fought according to his skill.
Mystique is a great fighter. Much better than Cap imo.
Even then, she was protected by plot too.
If you say Juggs and Mystique should have been easily cut by Wolverine but were instead protected by plot, then you'd probably also agree that Wolverine should have been easily disintegrated by Jean but was also protected by plot. Yes?
Originally posted by FrothByte
If you say Juggs and Mystique should have been easily cut by Wolverine but were instead protected by plot, then you'd probably also agree that Wolverine should have been easily disintegrated by Jean but was also protected by plot. Yes?
Protected by plot means characters do stupid things for the sake of the plot. CIS.
You cant have it both ways.
If Cap is made out of flesh and blood then either both
1. Him tanking haymakers from WS without being damaged too much
2. Wolverine not being disintegrated
Are either valid or both not valid. If not valid then so are millions of showings in movies also not valid. Can human flesh resist huge amounts of force without being torn? But yet a bullet penetrates as easy as human flesh?