Coming back to this after having read the Star Wars Inquisitors comic, and honestly I think the Grand Inquisitor would have kept his position even if Pong Krell had joined the Inquisitorius. The first issue of Inquisitors has the GI face a room full of Jedi elders, facing five at once and decisively winning. I'd say that's more impressive than Pong Krell losing to a squad of Clones.
By that logic, do you think ESB/RotJ Yoda was weaker than he would have been as a padawan? In that High Republic comic you mention, one of those elder Jedi outperformed Jedi Master Kantam Sy when it came to Force senses, reaction time, and telekinesis. Elder Jedi being past their physical prime doesn't mean they're so diminished that they're as weak as Padawans. And even if they were, taking on five padawans is still more impressive to me than what Pong Krell did (attacking a group of off-guard, non-Force sensitive clones and losing).
Jeez I need to read this series. How good does it make Kanan now to beat the GI ?
Might have just been a peak performance by Kanan though, and maybe GI was older (I.e. past his peak). Because IIRC Kanan never got the better of the 7th Sister.
But id be very surprised if Krell is not above the GI. That guy seemed beastly. In both strength and skill.
Originally posted by Underachiever59
By that logic, do you think ESB/RotJ Yoda was weaker than he would have been as a padawan? In that High Republic comic you mention, one of those elder Jedi outperformed Jedi Master Kantam Sy when it came to Force senses, reaction time, and telekinesis. Elder Jedi being past their physical prime doesn't mean they're so diminished that they're as weak as Padawans. And even if they were, taking on five padawans is still more impressive to me than what Pong Krell did (attacking a group of off-guard, non-Force sensitive clones and losing).
Not all Jedi grow weaker with age. Or exponentially weaker. In 19BBY Yoda was still a beast, not sure how good he was when he died in 3 ABY. Dooku and Palpatine also grew stronger with age. Tera Sinube, Oppo Rancisis, Kirak Infil’a were still active members of the order despite their old age. There is a reason if those Jedi have been placed in a nursing home. I’m sure that they’re still very wise and their connection to the force is good, but phisically these guys are well past their prime. Look at Tensu Run’s master
Originally posted by Galan007Why would we make that assumption though?
And it's especially true if GI scales above all the other Inquisitors in his ranks(like the one who throttled Asajj), which is a logical/reasonable assumption to make.
And wasn't Asajj out of practice and therefore weaker than her TCW levels? 😕
Originally posted by Eli VantoBecause Inquisitors, like their Sith overlords, are all about the "power = rank" status quo. ie. the strongest leads; the weak serve -- and since GI was the leader of the Inquisitorius, we can logically infer that he was the most powerful among them. If another Inquisitor existed who was stronger than him, they would've held the "GI" title instead.
Why would we make that assumption though?
Originally posted by Eli VantoCould very well be... But has it actually been stated/confirmed that TotU Asajj < TCW Asajj to any significant degree? Legit question.
And wasn't Asajj out of practice and therefore weaker than her TCW levels? 😕
If not, then I wouldn't assume that she just automatically became weaker by default. Look at TotE Barriss, Rebels Ahsoka, and Rebels Kenobi, for example: Were they technically "out of practice" in the conventional sense? Sure. Were they "weaker" than before? No. Numerous characters just seem to naturally evolve their abilities over the course of time(with or without formal practice/training.) Just saying...
Originally posted by Galan007
Could very well be... But has it actually been stated/confirmed that TotU Asajj < TCW Asajj to any significant degree? Legit question.If not, then I wouldn't assume that she just automatically became weaker by default.
I would defo say we should absolutely assume that.
We dont always need some sort of official confirmation with some random quote. Her performance speaks for itself in comparison to how good she used to be.
I mean shes out duelled Grievous FGS.
I know Filonis statements arent in and of themselves canon, and this one might be outdated. But he did originally say the best Inquisitor is around Ventress level but probably still a little below. And he co-created the character as well as Inquisitors being a thing in canon.
Yeah, when Filoni made that statement it was 2015, so he was referring to TCW/DD Ventress as DD had just come out that year. So by scaling, DD/TCW Ventress>GI>TotU Inquisitor by default. TotU Ventress may legit be weaker than that inquisitor or maaaybe if the fight went on she may have used the dark side and force chocked him just like Barriss force chocked Dante in ToTE after he had stunned her
^ Yeah exactly. But she shouldn't have struggled that badly in the first place, so she defo wasn't at her peak. But then why would she be?
Having said that Galan is correct how it's focus and conflict and stuff that effects a Jedi/Sith. So clearly Obi-Wan at the start of his series wasn't in the right mindset, compared to Old Ben in Rebels, even though probably neither had fought properly in a few years.
So I'm guessing Ventress has her own internal conflicts at the start of ToTE.
Yeah. Unfortunately they had to make Asajj somehow indebted to that Padawan, Lyco Strata. Still they could have written the fight differently, like she defeats the inquisitor after a brief but close exchange, she spares his life but he tries to backstab her as soon as she turns around, then Strata intervenes and kills him off.