Saitama vs Wally West (The Flash)
No Bfr or time travel and no speed steal
Flash isn't holding back (willing to kill) and knows how powerful Saitama is.
Round 1: Standard levels. Saitama (all feats before Cosmic Garou fight).
Round 2: Peak levels for both (most powerful versions of each and using best feats).
Originally posted by carver9
Yes.
Well I have an argument for flash.
1. Flash is quantifiable faster
2. Flash can potentially gain more mass (thus energy) than Saitama has ever been hit with before. For example, a star amount of mass.
3. Flash is willing to kill and knows Saitama power (one punch will kill him, etc)
Originally posted by h1a8
Well I have an argument for flash.
1. Flash is quantifiable faster
2. Flash can potentially gain more mass (thus energy) than Saitama has ever been hit with before. For example, a star amount of mass.
3. Flash is willing to kill and knows Saitama power (one punch will kill him, etc)
How fast would Saitama have to be in order to hit Flash?
Saitama destroyed STARS in a fight against Gaurou and withstood those same punches moments later as if they were feathers falling on him.
What's Flash strongest punch? Remember, CIS is on.
Originally posted by carver9
How fast would Saitama have to be in order to hit Flash?Saitama destroyed STARS in a fight against Gaurou and withstood those same punches moments later as if they were feathers falling on him.
What's Flash strongest punch? Remember, CIS is on.
In the first fight Saitama isn't that powerful. But you agreed on both fights he wins.
So he gets koed by a star mass IMP punch.
Saitama would have to be as fast to have a 100% chance of hitting Flash.
And 50% as fast to have a 10% chance.
With CIS off (remember Flash is willing to kill here) then Flash can gain the mass of a star easily. That's more than Saitama ever faced before his upgrade.
In the 2nd fight, you could be right and Flash possibly loses since Saitama is MANY times faster than light and insanely durable
(unless you call stalemate and Flash doesn't go for the IMP and just stays well above light speed).
Originally posted by h1a8
In the first fight Saitama isn't that powerful. But you agreed on both fights he wins.
So he gets koed by a star mass IMP punch.Saitama would have to be as fast to have a 100% chance of hitting Flash.
And 50% as fast to have a 10% chance.With CIS off (remember Flash is willing to kill here) then Flash can gain the mass of a star easily. That's more than Saitama ever faced before his upgrade.
In the 2nd fight, you could be right and Flash possibly loses since Saitama is MANY times faster than light and insanely durable
(unless you call stalemate and Flash doesn't go for the IMP and just stays well above light speed).
Nope, he doesn't. Same guy endured the pressure of a black hole.
HOW fast does he need to be to hit Flash?
Saitama and Garou destroyed stars and left a hole in space and Saitama endured those same punches onwards. I don't know why you keep mentioning star level punches. Who has Flash punched at star level hits?
Originally posted by carver9
Nope, he doesn't. Same guy endured the pressure of a black hole.HOW fast does he need to be to hit Flash?
Saitama and Garou destroyed stars and left a hole in space and Saitama endured those same punches onwards. I don't know why you keep mentioning star level punches. Who has Flash punched at star level hits?
The pressure inside a black hole can be less than 1000 tons. It all depends on how close you are to the singularity and how massive the black hole is.
I answered your question on how fast Saitama has to be. Did you read it?
Flash has gained the mass of a star before. But that's not the question (of whether he can or not). The question is will he choose to. IMP is when you go below light speed (not above). Flash can go many times faster than light and therefore Flash can literally move at any speed he wants below light speed (especially with attosecond perceptions). That means he can gain whatever mass he chooses to. He doesn't kill so you will never see him hit anyone with that type of mass unless HE KNOWS they can take it without dying.
Originally posted by h1a8
The pressure inside a black hole can be less than 1000 tons. It all depends on how close you are to the singularity and how massive the black hole is.I answered your question on how fast Saitama has to be. Did you read it?
Flash has gained the mass of a star before. But that's not the question (of whether he can or not). The question is will he choose to. IMP is when you go below light speed (not above). Flash can go many times faster than light and therefore Flash can literally move at any speed he wants below light speed (especially with attosecond perceptions). That means he can gain whatever mass he chooses to. He doesn't kill so you will never see him hit anyone with that type of mass unless HE KNOWS they can take it without dying.
He withstood it. It's obviously meant to be equivalent to the full pressure of a black hole, not thousands of tons, lmao.
You didn't answer my question. First fights, CIS is on which means Saitama should be more than capable of slapping Flash to death.
Show me Flash punching at star level, please.
Originally posted by carver9
What was star level about that punch? Or was it hyperbole?
Originally posted by carver9
He withstood it. It's obviously meant to be equivalent to the full pressure of a black hole, not thousands of tons, lmao.You didn't answer my question. First fights, CIS is on which means Saitama should be more than capable of slapping Flash to death.
Show me Flash punching at star level, please.
There is no such thing as full pressure of a black hole. You have a gravitational force. The gravitational force can be anything depending on how close to the singularity AND HOW MASSIVE the black hole is. You ignored the HOW MASSIVE part.
And stop making stuff up. That's trolling.
I did answer your question concerning the speed Saitama needs.
One hit from Saitama will kill or ko Flash. Flash knows this. Plus Flash is bloodlusted here and not holding back
So you are unfamiliar with Flash punching Zoom and it's being stated to have the mass of a white dwarf star?
Originally posted by h1a8
There is no such thing as full pressure of a black hole. You have a gravitational force. The gravitational force can be anything depending on how close to the singularity AND HOW MASSIVE the black hole is. You ignored the HOW MASSIVE part.And stop making stuff up. That's trolling.
I did answer your question concerning the speed Saitama needs.
One hit from Saitama will kill or ko Flash. Flash knows this. Plus Flash is bloodlusted here and not holding backSo you are unfamiliar with Flash punching Zoom and it's being stated to have the mass of a white dwarf star?
He withstood a black hole.
Your first option isn't blood listed flash. He gets killed. Second fight, he gets killed even faster.
Zoom has star level durability?