^ I think David only two-pressed a total of 350lbs in the movie -- in one of the deleted scenes he two-pressed 500lbs. Neither of those figures are very impressive at all by comic standards, though. That said, David's strength can be scaled to the Beast(who physically flipped a police cruiser on its side, for starters), as David appeared to be stronger and more durable than him.
In terms of durability, we don't actually know what David's upper limits are(sans weakness exploitation, obvs.)
He has:
-Survived being ejected from a truck at high speed, completely unscathed.
-Survived a massive train derailment that killed everyone else on board, completely unscathed.
-And again, David's durability at least scales to the Beast(who only sustained superficial damage from close-range shotgun fire.)
Originally posted by Galan007good points. 👆
^ I think David only two-pressed a total of 350lbs in the movie -- in one of the deleted scenes he two-pressed 500lbs. Neither of those figures are very impressive at all by comic standards, though. That said, David's strength can be scaled to the Beast(who physically flipped a police cruiser on its side, for starters), as David appeared to be stronger and more durable than him.In terms of durability, we don't actually know what David's upper limits are(sans weakness exploitation, obvs.)
He has:
-Survived being ejected from a truck at high speed, completely unscathed.
-Survived a massive train derailment that killed everyone else on board, completely unscathed.
-And again, David's durability at least scales to the Beast(who only sustained superficial damage from close-range shotgun fire.)
Originally posted by Galan007Agreed. 👆
^ I think David only two-pressed a total of 350lbs in the movie -- in one of the deleted scenes he two-pressed 500lbs. Neither of those figures are very impressive at all by comic standards, though. That said, David's strength can be scaled to the Beast(who physically flipped a police cruiser on its side, for starters), as David appeared to be stronger and more durable than him.In terms of durability, we don't actually know what David's upper limits are(sans weakness exploitation, obvs.)
He has:
-Survived being ejected from a truck at high speed, completely unscathed.
-Survived a massive train derailment that killed everyone else on board, completely unscathed.
-And again, David's durability at least scales to the Beast(who only sustained superficial damage from close-range shotgun fire.)
He was literally unscathed, not a single scratch. But I suppose he did at least get knocked unconscious from the train derailment for a while? So someone who can bust a train should be able to knock him out, I guess.
Originally posted by ODGI'm really not sure, tbh.
Agreed. 👆He was literally unscathed, not a single scratch. But I suppose he did at least get knocked unconscious from the train derailment for a while? So someone who can bust a train should be able to knock him out, I guess.
David soaked the train derailment before he even knew that he had "powers" -- that was just his subconscious durability kicking in. And because David's stats increase in accordance with his mental state(ie. the more he believes in himself, the stronger he gets), that could have simply been the starting point for his overall durability. So by the time he fought the Beast, for example, it's possible that he wouldn't have even been KO'd by the derailment... But unfortunately we'll never know.
Either way, Unbreakable is a fantastic film, as is Split... Glass, not so much, but I still enjoyed it. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
I'm really not sure, tbh.David soaked the train derailment before he even knew that he had "powers" -- that was just his subconscious durability kicking in. And because David's stats increase in accordance with his mental state(ie. the more he believes in himself, the stronger he gets), that could have simply been the starting point for his overall durability. So by the time he fought the Beast, for example, it's possible that he wouldn't have even been KO'd by the derailment... But unfortunately we'll never know.
Either way, Unbreakable is a fantastic film, as is Split... Glass, not so much, but I still enjoyed it. 👆
Glass ruined the entire trilogy.
Dunn in by a puddle.
And the flash photography triggering a personality shift was pure ass pull, Split never had a hint of such an exploitable weakness.
How did the anti meta organization even know everything they knew? What, did they have a crystal ball?
I guess Glass himself got one up on them, but that hardly tips the scales against all they've done.
^ The metal door scene towards the end of Glass(along with Elijah's dialogue) sort of showcases that, imo.
David starts off in total disbelief that he is anything special, and he initially causes no damage to the door at all... But the more he starts believing in himself/his abilities, the more damage he starts causing to the door, until he ultimately rams through it entirely.
Originally posted by ODGMaybe, maybe not. Just mentioning a possibility.
^ I'm not sure this idea of Dunn's psychological influence over his stats will manifest itself meaningfully to make a difference during a fight.Maybe against a hero that fiercely holds back to their own detriment? But even the most withholding of heroes typically overcomes that.
Originally posted by h1a8OP stipulates this is David as of his final confrontation with the Beast. So yeah, full confidence is a given.
Tbh David started doubting himself because of the staff (anti meta Corp). In normal circumstances, or at his peak, he will be at full confidence in a forum fight.
Originally posted by ODG
^ Wasn't the resolution of Glass that they couldn't suppress the existence of metas????????????
Yeah, the ending was everything getting leaked in spite of their efforts to suppress.
The thing is, that won't necessarily stop them from kidnapping and murdering metas.. The public knows about the NSA spying on everyone, they still spy on everyone.
Plus there's the "Don't Look Up" scenerio, where a gullible public can be convinced to keep their head in the sand, even against experts.best efforts to alert them to a meteor heading towards Earth. Same basic concept could apply to anything, just convince the public the meta leaks are a massive hoax from a hacker group.
Re: Weakest character who can beat David Dunn?
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
who's the weakest comic character that could defeat david dunn (from the movies unbreakable and glass) in a straight up brawl?-no exotic powers or weaponry, just strength alone.
-no weakness exploitation.
-this is david as of his final fight with the beast.
Probably most street-level comics can, just because they're comics and likely have a lot more upper tier showings.
eg Wild Cat (Ted Grant) likely could take Dunn.