James Gunn, "Most Superhero films are boring"

https://nypost.com/2023/04/04/james-gunn-suffers-from-superhero-fatigue-it-gets-really-boring/

“We love Superman. We love Batman. We love Iron Man. Because they’re these incredible characters that we have in our hearts. And if it becomes just a bunch of nonsense onscreen, it gets really boring,” Gunn pointed out.

He also expressed that he’s exhausted from viewing “spectacle films” and movies that don’t have an “emotionally grounded story.”

He explained that if one doesn’t have “a story at the base” of an action flick, then just “watching things bash each other, no matter how clever those bashing moments are, no matter how clever the designs and the VFX are, it just gets fatiguing, and I think that’s very, very real.”

I mean, Black Adam comes to mind..

Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, Venom, Justice League, Birds of Prey, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Aquaman, Age of Ultron, Endgame, The Amazing Spiderman 2, Suicide Squad, etc.

Those are just some of the worst ones that I've seen.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
I mean, Black Adam comes to mind..

Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, Venom, Justice League, Birds of Prey, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Aquaman, Age of Ultron, Endgame, The Amazing Spiderman 2, Suicide Squad, etc.

Those are just some of the worst ones that I've seen.

Suicide Squad (2016). Not THE Suicide Squad (2021).

GET YOUR SHIT STRAIGHT!!

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Suicide Squad (2016). Not THE Suicide Squad (2021).

GET YOUR SHIT STRAIGHT!!

Wonder Woman 84. Not Wonder Woman.

GET YOUR SHIT STRAIGHT!!

Yeah, WW was okay. I didn't see 1984 because it was apparently such utter garbage. But WW did end with some brainless bashing each other, which is why I mentioned it.

Honestly I miss poignant movies like Network or Raging Bull. Heck, I'd settle for Scrooged.

Because lets be honest, the MCU is the best we have now and they can't hold a candle to Ridley Scott or Tim Burton in their prime, much less Martin Scorsese.

God, Martin Scorsese's couldn't even operate in todays environment, you don't get a genius films from commitee, branding, focus groups.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Suicide Squad (2016). Not THE Suicide Squad (2021).

GET YOUR SHIT STRAIGHT!!

Originally posted by cdtm
Honestly I miss poignant movies like Network or Raging Bull. Heck, I'd settle for Scrooged.

Because lets be honest, the MCU is the best we have now and they can't hold a candle to Ridley Scott or Tim Burton in their prime, much less Martin Scorsese.

God, Martin Scorsese's couldn't even operate in todays environment, you don't get a genius films from commitee, branding, focus groups.

James Gunn isn't wrong on this topic.

Originally posted by cdtm
Honestly I miss poignant movies like Network or Raging Bull. Heck, I'd settle for Scrooged.

Because lets be honest, the MCU is the best we have now and they can't hold a candle to Ridley Scott or Tim Burton in their prime, much less Martin Scorsese.

God, Martin Scorsese's couldn't even operate in todays environment, you don't get a genius films from commitee, branding, focus groups.

How do you figure much is the best we have now? Plenty of Movies that are a lot better.

James Gunn isnt wrong. Its entertaining mostly, but nothing truly memorable. Especially not in the last 4 years or so. Its strange cause there are so many comic stories and characters that have so much potential. The fact that it has to be somewhat kid friendly doesnt help either of course...

Originally posted by Kazenji
James Gunn isn't wrong on this topic.

Originally posted by Thinkerer

Its strange cause there are so many comic stories and characters that have so much potential. The fact that it has to be somewhat kid friendly doesnt help either of course...

Also depends on the character too

not every single character that gets adapted needs to have a R rated movie.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Also depends on the character too

not every single character that gets adapted needs to have a R rated movie.

Martin Scorsese was spot on about the vast majority of superhero movies the same and formulaic. Something needs to change.

What he should have said was, most DC superhero movies are boring. 😛

That's why they hired him to be their latest savior, isn't it? After Christopher Nolan and Zack Snyder got it started, then Zack Snyder went his own way and things started going sideways, then it was supposed to be Geoff Johns & Jon Berg, then Walter Hamada, then J.J. Abrams (who's probably going to finish his time at Warners without a single DC project produced), and even Dwayne Johnson was trying to be a DC movie architect.

Meanwhile, Marvel Studios has had one guy for 15 years, Kevin Feige. And it's been enough.

Originally posted by roughrider
What he should have said was, most DC superhero movies are boring. 😛

That's why they hired him to be their latest savior, isn't it? After Christopher Nolan and Zack Snyder got it started, then Zack Snyder went his own way and things started going sideways, then it was supposed to be Geoff Johns & Jon Berg, then Walter Hamada, then J.J. Abrams (who's probably going to finish his time at Warners without a single DC project produced), and even Dwayne Johnson was trying to be a DC movie architect.

Meanwhile, Marvel Studios has had one guy for 15 years, Kevin Feige. And it's been enough.

Most of the recent MCU films are horrible.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Most of the recent MCU films are horrible.

Same goes for the DC flicks too in that regard.

While I don't disagree with Gunn, I think it's a bit rich when he's partially responsible for things being the way they are.

Originally posted by -Pr-
While I don't disagree with Gunn, I think it's a bit rich when he's partially responsible for things being the way they are.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Which of his films were a miss or emotionally deprived?

Guardians 2 I would say is a good example.

I was speaking more about how Marvel has been continually trying to ape what he and Whedon did with the first Avengers and GOTG, though.