Superman Dynasty Vs MCU

Started by FrothByte2 pages
Originally posted by relentless1
Most of these Supermen are stronger than Thanos by a large degree and Stranges magic didn't seem to bother him none, Scarlet With MAY be a problem but then again she's a glass cannon and how would she handle getting turned into paste from a speed blitz? Thor is their biggest physical challenge but again, he doesn't have the speed to match many of these guys, Supermen win this fight for sure but it'll be a tough one based purely on the numbers

Thanos was able to counter Strange's magic because he had the IG. These Supermen don't have anything to counter Strange's magic.

But even if we assume they can tank or blitz Strange and Wanda, how exactly are they supposed to beat Dormammu, Ego, Celestials or that shadow-dragon from Shang-Chi?

I dunno man, nobody has been able to time travel under their own auspices in the MCU yet so until that happens nobody is in the same tier as Reeve or Routh Superman, they can handle the big guns, Cavill can dust out the Heavies and the rest are on clean up

Originally posted by FrothByte
Wasn't Strange Supreme in Multiverse of Madness, making him part of the main timeline?

Also, there's characters like Dormammu, Ego and the Celestials in the MCU.

No, that wasn't Strange Supreme. That version was credited as "Sinister Strange" IIRC. Strange Supreme is laughably more powerful than any other incarnation of Strange we've seen so far, hell, probably stronger than all of them combined. And he's currently guarding the whole Zola/Killmonger/Infinity Stone mess from the end of What If.

Originally posted by relentless1
I dunno man, nobody has been able to time travel under their own auspices in the MCU yet so until that happens nobody is in the same tier as Reeve or Routh Superman, they can handle the big guns, Cavill can dust out the Heavies and the rest are on clean up

Even if Reeve reverses time, what exactly does that accomplish? He'll still end up with the same dilemma where they won't have any ability to defeat the more cosmic beings. And that's assuming he can actually reverse time outside of Earth. Remember that he was only able to reverse time by flying around Earth. How exactly does that work against beings that don't live on Earth?

And saying that nobody is on the same tier as Reeve or Routh just because they can time travel is nonsense. You have people who can warp reality in the MCU. The Supermen can't do that. Neither can they travel between realms. And traveling back in time on their own won't really do much against either Strange or Thanos if they're holding the time stone. That's not even considering that Thanos can simply snap them into dust if he has the IG.

Smallville Clark would likely throw Hela, Strange, etc... into the sun. 😂

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Smallville Clark would likely throw Hela, Strange, etc... into the sun. 😂

^^^So, you deliberately made (what you think is) a spite thread.

Shame on you. 🙂

I didn't even know until I saw a video in Comicvine. Guy is insane and probably the strongest Superman

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You have to be insane to think that FTL characters are going to lose this fight. The Supermen can kill Strange and Wanda literally millions of times in the time it takes them to cast a single spell. And lol at the idea of the Supermen needing time to take out Hulk and Thor and the like. Reeves moved the Moon and tossed all of the nukes on Earth into the Sun. He casually one-shots all of them.

Originally posted by FrothByte
The thing here is that as strong and fast as the Superman are, there's still a number of MCU characters that they can't oneshot. Guys like Hulk, Thor, Kurse, Abom, Icarus, Hela, Thanos, etc.... even if we assume that they're unable to land a hit on the Supermen, the Supermen will still need a bit of time trying to take them out.

Hahahahah, what? Smallville Superman is so strong that he can literally push Apokolips, a literal planet, away from Earth.

Reeves Superman can move the ****ing moon.

And you say a loser like ****ing Hulk, of all people, is going to tank them? 😂

As for the rest of your post, none of the pictured MCU characters have any means to deal with characters that are faster than the speed of light. Really, the only saving grace they have is that in-character the Supermen would not gun to kill them right away. But then, neither would the heroic MCU characters when fighting heroes like the Superman (DCEU Superman they would immediately shoot to kill).

HOWEVER, I was operating under the assumption that we were just talking about the characters in the pictured, which to my eye didn't include any of the cosmics like Dormammu nor the What If? characters. If those are allowed then the MCU wins. Ultron Prime and Strange Supreme would likely solo.

Originally posted by tkitna
Those would be enough, but add on the Ancient One too as she is on the poster.

You have no clue about speed do you? Smallville, and some of the Superman are so fast that the entire battlefield would be frozen once the fight starts (like Metroman). Any of the Superman can literally oneshot any magic user while they are frozen.

Originally posted by h1a8
You have no clue about speed do you? Smallville, and some of the Superman are so fast that the entire battlefield would be frozen once the fight starts (like Metroman). Any of the Superman can literally oneshot any magic user while they are frozen.

Shame none of them fight the way you picture them. They all get tagged constantly. Your depiction of frozen and statue like are a pipe dream.

Originally posted by tkitna
Shame none of them fight the way you picture them. They all get tagged constantly. Your depiction of frozen and statue like are a pipe dream.

Cavill did.

Smallville Superman constantly moved while everyone was frozen. Just look at the football game scene.

He's massively more powerful by end of series.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Cavill did.

Got tagged? Yes he did.

Originally posted by tkitna
Got tagged? Yes he did.

Marvel characters arent that fast, so he doesnt have to worry much.

Originally posted by tkitna
Shame none of them fight the way you picture them. They all get tagged constantly. Your depiction of frozen and statue like are a pipe dream.
You're fighting a losing battle arguing against characters with a catalog of feats as high end as Reeves or Smallville Superman. In terms of strength they literally are stronger than every MCU character in that image combined and in terms of speed feats and portrayals of speed there is no comparison. I don't think Reeves Superman even has any particularly low showings in direct combat.

The MCUs only hope are if cosmics like Dormammu and certain What If? characters like Strange Supreme or Ultron Prime are allowed. I operated under the assumption it was just the pictured characters though.

Let's imagine for a moment, as ridiculous as it seems, Wanda freezes and holds a blood-lustered Superman, ala Thanos. He looks at her, his eyes glow red... and Wanda is toast.

This shit still going? Wop Wop Wop 😆

This shit is like the Flash TV show, eleven seasons, nine of which no one wanted. Do wop do wop, because I'm a Duke of Earl. -Darts or Showaddywaddy, they merge.