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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Cool. How?
I used to be a proponent of classic Juggs being immune to all physical force (he has infinite durability against physical force). Now I've adopted the level by display of feats instead for a couple of reasons.
Sbp has power output feats above anything that Juggs has experienced and withstood.
Originally posted by h1a8
Why do you always troll Carv?
If Sbp has strength feats above any feat Juggs has experienced
Is far faster than JuggsThen how does Juggs not get one shot
and certainly how does he win?
Disagreeing with your opinion doesn't equate to trolling. Thats an arrogant perspective to have.
It's understandable why he might believe Juggernaut might win. Respect that.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
1.Disagreeing with your opinion doesn't equate to trolling. Thats an arrogant perspective to have.2. It's understandable why he might believe Juggernaut might win. Respect that.
1. You Making true but irrelevant statements doesn't disprove nor rebut someone's argument. Sbp wins a slug fest is a fact not an opinion. Opinions exist when two characters are close to each other, not when it's spite.
Disagreeing (without factual basis knowledge), disagreeing (with factual basis), stating to disagree (when in your mind you actually agree because you have factual basis) are all different things. The latter is trolling.
2. If Carv is aware of both characters top feats and still say the character, who is both thousands of times (if not more) weaker and slower still wins, then that is trolling. Now I can say that Thing beats Superman if I'm not aware of both feats. That's not trolling. But if I'm aware of both and still say thing beats Superman in a slug fest then I'm clearly trolling.
You should know that Carv is marvel bias. He doesn't necessarily debate his opinion but rather WHO HE WANTS TO WIN.
Originally posted by h1a8
1. You Making true but irrelevant statements doesn't disprove nor rebut someone's argument. Sbp wins a slug fest is a fact not an opinion. Opinions exist when two characters are close to each other, not when it's spite.Disagreeing (without factual basis knowledge), disagreeing (with factual basis), stating to disagree (when in your mind you actually agree because you have factual basis) are all different things. The latter is trolling.
2. If Carv is aware of both characters top feats and still say the character, who is both thousands of times (if not more) weaker and slower still wins, then that is trolling. Now I can say that Thing beats Superman if I'm not aware of both feats. That's not trolling. But if I'm aware of both and still say thing beats Superman in a slug fest then I'm clearly trolling.
You should know that Carv is marvel bias. He doesn't necessarily debate his opinion but rather WHO HE WANTS TO WIN.
When have Juggernauts shields and invulnerability ever been overcome by sheer physical force?
Any examples?
To my knowledge its required mystical ability to do so.
Has Superboy Prime shown ability to overcome mystical enchantments through physical force?
Im not making a vote either way. Im just highlighting the battle isnt as clear cut as some are asserting (without evidence) thereby making Carvers comment valid, whether you agree with it or not.
Come into a new thread with a clean slate. Be respectful.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
When have Juggernauts shields and invulnerability ever been overcome by sheer physical force?Any examples?
To my knowledge its required mystical ability to do so.
Has Superboy Prime shown ability to overcome mystical enchantments through physical force?
Im not making a vote either way. Im just highlighting the battle isnt as clear cut as some are asserting (without evidence) thereby making Carvers comment valid, whether you agree with it or not.
Come into a new thread with a clean slate. Be respectful.
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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
When have Juggernauts shields and invulnerability ever been overcome by sheer physical force?Any examples?
To my knowledge its required mystical ability to do so.
Has Superboy Prime shown ability to overcome mystical enchantments through physical force?
Im not making a vote either way. Im just highlighting the battle isnt as clear cut as some are asserting (without evidence) thereby making Carvers comment valid, whether you agree with it or not.
Come into a new thread with a clean slate. Be respectful.
Onslaught
War Hulk
Professor Hulk
Just some examples of Juggs getting whooped with non-magic force.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
When have Juggernauts shields and invulnerability ever been overcome by sheer physical force?Any examples?
To my knowledge its required mystical ability to do so.
Has Superboy Prime shown ability to overcome mystical enchantments through physical force?
Im not making a vote either way. Im just highlighting the battle isnt as clear cut as some are asserting (without evidence) thereby making Carvers comment valid, whether you agree with it or not.
Come into a new thread with a clean slate. Be respectful.
He no sold Black Adam which showcased his immunity to magic.
Juggs have been damaged, hurt, and koed multiple times.
I'll give examples
But assume he wasn't (like I did when I used to rep him).
We still go by the highest feats to determine the ceiling for a character.
For example, if a character survived a nuke but with damage and said nuke was the highest showing then the character has no more than nuke durability in a forum fight. Now if a character survived a nuke without ANY damage or even being bothered then they can survive an attack that is a few more times greater than a nuke in a forum.
Onslaught penetrated Juggs chest.
Captain universe beat him to a bloody pulp (Juggs was severely injured)
Juggs got hurt from regular fire (i say PIS though).
There are a few more I believe.
