Originally posted by h1a8
Superman was a statue when Flash first ran around him. Superman came out of the statue state.Plus there is a such thing as fiction inconsistency. Characters don't always operate at the same level in every scene.
No, he was a statue when Flash actually went light speeds. He wasn't going anywhere near that during his fight against Superman. Nowhere near
Originally posted by NemeBro
His skyscraper feat was less than 60,000 tons.This is in fact worse than Aquaman pushing a submarine to the ocean's surface in seconds. It is much worse than the at minimum millions of tons of pressure on Superman's shoulders during the World Engine scene, or Superman being able to destroy the World Engine (which destroyed a nearby mountain upon arrival through its sheer bulk) by overpowering it and flying through it despite the fact that during both of these feats he was being weakened. And of course it is many many orders of magnitude below shifting a tectonic plate.
Metro Man has zero feats suggesting he could replicate any of this. He is so much weaker than Clark that he has zero hope of putting him down, especially since in full sunlight as seen in BvS he can heal from dying and deprived of sunlight to near full the moment the sun hits him.
Clark either wins or stalemate if Metro Man never lets Clark hit him.
Lmmfao at the world engine ft and Aquaman isn't lifting skyscrapers. Same Superman struggled with an oil ridge and no, there isn't a shed of proof that he became stronger afterwards. The only improvement he gained was flight which helped him lift the apartment buindling and helped him fly through the lame ass world engine ft.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Clark either wins or stalemate if Metro Man never lets Clark hit him.
Metroman is not as fast as we thought. I calculated his minimum speed needed to achieve the feat.
Originally posted by h1a8
Here is a calculation of Metroman's minimum walking speed.Fact1: 0.1mm is the limit of human visual acuity. That means it is impossible to tell, with the naked eye, a displacement of 0.1mm or less. In other words, an object that displaces a distance of 0.1mm or less would appear as it didn't move at all. Hence a statue.
Fact2: All objects in the Metroman scene were moving with a real speed of less than 1m/s.
Fact3: No object was shown more than 5 seconds of Metroman's perspective (screen time).
Now Let's find Metroman minimum speed.
Assume the fastest moving object in all the scenes with real speed of 1m/s that traveled 0.1mm during a total of 5 seconds it was shown on screen (Metroman's perspective). No object was shown with more than 5 seconds of screen time.Normally the object will have moved 5m in 5 seconds. So 5m/0.1mm = 50,000 times scale factor. So everything Metroman does in human speed in this state can be multiplied by 50,000 to get his minimum speed.
For example, Assuming 3mph is average walking speed then Metroman was walking around at 3x50,000mph or 150,000 Mph.
Speed of sound is 767mph.
So 150,000/767 = Mach 196 is HIS MINIMUM walking SPEED.
Now here's the calculation of Supeman's speed.
According to the speed of the lightning shown coming from Flash, Superman was estimated to punch at 1/4 the speed of light. Punching speed is about 6x that of walking speed. So Superman has a walking speed of 1/24 the speed of light. This is faster than Metroman.
Originally posted by carver9
No, he was a statue when Flash actually went light speeds. He wasn't going anywhere near that during his fight against Superman. Nowhere near
Carv please read better. I already posted the speed of both characters (both under the speed of light). Superman is faster. Flash moving at light speed and statueing Superman is irrelevent due to:
1. Superman was statued when Flash was moving at 1/4 the speed of light.
and
2. Fiction inconsistency (two feats that contradict) if you assume that Superman can't purposely pull himself out of statued state if he wants to.
Originally posted by carver9
Lmmfao at the world engine ft and Aquaman isn't lifting skyscrapers. Same Superman struggled with an oil ridge and no, there isn't a shed of proof that he became stronger afterwards. The only improvement he gained was flight which helped him lift the apartment buindling and helped him fly through the lame ass world engine ft.
Superman can't lift a skyscraper even though they have feats exceeding the strength needing to do so.
Good Logic Carv.
Now you can argue those feats are PIS and don't count. Therefore, they can't lift parts of skyscrapers. That would be a more rational argument than the one you just posted.
Originally posted by carver9Carver I gotta give you the honest truth man: the only reason I responded to you at all is for the benefit of other people. You're a clown and nobody on this board takes you seriously. Basically an h1 with better social skills who at least doesn't pretend to know math and science but who reps the opposite characters. Sorry if I made you think I was engaging your posts like you were an individual worth responding to. You don't often see me respond to h1 for the same reason.
Lmmfao at the world engine ft and Aquaman isn't lifting skyscrapers. Same Superman struggled with an oil ridge and no, there isn't a shed of proof that he became stronger afterwards. The only improvement he gained was flight which helped him lift the apartment buindling and helped him fly through the lame ass world engine ft.
Originally posted by h1a8
Metroman is not as fast as we thought. I calculated his minimum speed needed to achieve the feat.Now here's the calculation of Supeman's speed.
According to the speed of the lightning shown coming from Flash, Superman was estimated to punch at 1/4 the speed of light. Punching speed is about 6x that of walking speed. So Superman has a walking speed of 1/24 the speed of light. This is faster than Metroman.
Carv please read better. I already posted the speed of both characters (both under the speed of light). Superman is faster. Flash moving at light speed and statueing Superman is irrelevent due to:
1. Superman was statued when Flash was moving at 1/4 the speed of light.
and
2. Fiction inconsistency (two feats that contradict) if you assume that Superman can't purposely pull himself out of statued state if he wants to.
Proof that Superman can pull himself out of statue mode with Flash going at his fastest. I want to see proof.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Carver I gotta give you the honest truth man: the only reason I responded to you at all is for the benefit of other people. You're a clown and nobody on this board takes you seriously. Basically an h1 with better social skills who at least doesn't pretend to know math and science but who reps the opposite characters. Sorry if I made you think I was engaging your posts like you were an individual worth responding to. You don't often see me respond to h1 for the same reason.
Concession accepted.
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman can't lift a skyscraper even though they have feats exceeding the strength needing to do so.Good Logic Carv.
Now you can argue those feats are PIS and don't count. Therefore, they can't lift parts of skyscrapers. That would be a more rational argument than the one you just posted.
What fts exceeds that?