JLA vs Gojo

Originally posted by carver9
I never said 2 tenth of a second is fast, it's what he did in those seconds that is impressive. That's how much he had available to him to achieve a goal which was killed thousands of monsters that were also bunched in with thousands of humans.

Which is why I tried to explain the magnitudes of how much more a nanosecond is to a tenth of a second.

Even if Cyborg did ONE action in that nanosecond, a tenth of a second is a 100million of those nanoseconds....so he can do (in the same tenth of a second) 100 million actions. That's why it's so laughable. Assuming killing a monster is one action, he could kill 100million in a single tenth of a second, let alone two.

Killing thousands is a good feat, just nowhere near the scales I am talking about with Cyborg in his scan.

In short, we can lowball Cyborg massively and say he needs 1000nanoseconds to do an action (even though my scan doesn't show that, lol) and he would still outreact Gojo, and can open a Boom Tube up and BFR him.

Originally posted by Astner
Arguing that Cyborg has super-speed is like arguing that Batman or Dr. Fate has super-speed. Could you find a feat that would support the claim? Sure. Is it consistent with their overall portrayal? No. They're not Kryptonians, Martians, nor do they have access to the Speed Force, and there's not a single instance of super-speed being explicitly attributed to him.

For reference, top tier Jujutsu Sorcerers and Cursed Spirits are in the supersonic range.

- Jujutsu Kaisen ch. 193

So nowhere near fast enough to keep up with the Flash or Superman, but far too fast for anyone with human reactions.

But Infinity protects him from characters that are faster than him.

But I'm not sure why you're not content with the Miss Martian solution. Gojo is effectively a mage with moderate super-speed with no established defenses against telepathy. I don't even think Carver would argue against that one.

Supersonic range is their top speed, huh?

the flash solos the entire jjs verse

carver chokes on watermelon

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He managed to catch the Watchtower before it hit Earth, reboot his systems, and Boom tube it away. He does indeed have superspeed - and that's before I go into how he thinks faster than the Watchtower's computers or whatever.

... so long as you're not co-equaling the flight speed with combat/reflex superspeed.

You'll have to read the other scans, and read other threads, to get the full context.

It's like a multi book crossover storyline!!!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
His sensors? What do you mean? A sensor is useless without something to process the...sensory input, and in this case the processor is a Motherbox.

So in the space of a nanosecond:

We literally see his thought processes from one nanosecond to the next.

Downloading, learning, and applying new information:

Tony isn't Cyborg. He doesn't have a Motherbox fused to him. Unless you are arguing that his sensors download and learn martial arts, and then move his limbs? At which point, you are just arguing semantics, as the physical act of moving his limbs etc is Cyborg's.

But yeah, Shift (who is Metamorpho's clone)/Metamorpho/Miss Martian/Atom should be able to do it.

I'm also slightly unimpressed by this usage of infinity, because of your comment that normal humans can tolerate 0.2 seconds of 'infinite knowledge '. I know you try to rationalize it, but that still sounds iffy.

He's 100% saying Cyborg has light speed reaction/reflexes.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Does not matter.

I have shown that he is able to reboot his systems and catch something building sized falling at over 300,000mph.

I have shown that he thinks and acts in a nanosecond, not only figuring out problems but acting the solution out.

Under Full Capacity forum rules, I have proven that he has superspeed, certainly in thinking and reacting. Yes, I agree, he sucks - but my point is a sucky D-list JLA member is sufficient. I can certainly post more feats of him doing superspeed calculations and reactions if you want.

It would be interesting if Cyborg just bypassed space and just opened a Boom Tube where he was. Sounds like that could work.

More proof.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You'll have to read the other scans, and read other threads, to get the full context.

It's like a multi book crossover storyline!!!

Others have already commented on other scans. I co-sign what Smurph pointed out concerning the analogies you can make between Cyborg and Iron Man.

😂 your reading comprehension, as always, amuses me no end Carv.

You must honestly think that what you do is 'debating'.

Originally posted by ODG
Well, I was more focused on that one scene. Is there something I'm missing that recontextualizes that one scene in isolation? Let me know.

Others have already commented on other scans. I co-sign what Smurph pointed out concerning the analogies you can make between Cyborg and Iron Man.

Not really. It was fast, he threw his jet boots into over drive, caught up with it, rebooted his systems and was able to BFR it.

I won't insult your intelligence and think that you think like Carv here, and believe that I then extrapolated this into = lightspeed Cyborg or something.

And third-signed about Tony and Vic.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Atom, Metamorpho, Cyborg, Batman. That's 4 people I named.

Read the scans. Nanosecond level.

More proof. I ask about Cyborg reaction speed, Dark say nano second. Seems pretty clear to me what he is trying to paint.

Originally posted by carver9
More proof. I ask about Cyborg reaction speed, Dark say nano second. Seems pretty clear to me what he is trying to paint.

What seems clear to you is always to be taken with a pinch of salt, tbf. Like, fistfuls of salt, lol.

But it's like I've always said - watching you try and debate is like watching a circus bear ride a bicycle. At first it's kinda funny to laugh at, and then after a while you just feel a bit bad for it. Like 'awww look he's trying so hard, he's got a little vest on! He thinks he's people!'

And then soon.....hmmmm. this is just cruel now.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not really. It was fast, he threw his jet boots into over drive, caught up with it, rebooted his systems and was able to BFR it.

I won't insult your intelligence and think that you think like Carv here, and believe that I then extrapolated this into = lightspeed Cyborg or something.

And third-signed about Tony and Vic.

DarkODGver9 4life.

Truly a fearsome being. The wank of DS, the anger of ODG and the stupidity of Carver.....

I dare anybody else combine three other KMC posters to challenge our amalgamation!

Originally posted by Astner
It's not he that processes it, it's his sensors. There were similar arguments pushed for Tony Stark back in the day, and I'm not sure why people are doing it.

He can process 100 Terabytes of data in 0.0001 seconds. That's 1 million Terabytes of data a second, or 1 Exabyte.

Not that the original statement wasn't silly...

so cyborg solos?

Superman whisks Gojo into timestream and traps him between moments in time
https://i.ibb.co/26CLkzm/14.jpg

But not sure Superman is the weakest here

Originally posted by ODG
I dare anybody else combine three other KMC posters to challenge our amalgamation!

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Superman whisks Gojo into timestream and traps him between moments in time
https://i.ibb.co/26CLkzm/14.jpg

But not sure Superman is the weakest here

Pre Criss Superman, lmao