you see, superman needs to remain in the same tier with surfer/thor etc for marvel fanboys, this preconceived notion is what keeps lots of them getting up in the morning
or else their brains short circuit
no amount of feats are gonna sway their opinions. so just let them have their illusion and move on.
^ Superman isn't even in this thread, mang. Whenever Superman is in a thread, you all b1tch and whine about Flash as if it reverse-inflates Superman. Then whenever Superman isn't a thread, you b1tch and whine about Superman as if it reverse-inflates other DC characters.
Originally posted by MrMind
Tell that to the dc writers, we are just following their logic
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Irony of what? Instead of a conversation, posters would rather just insist, "B-b-b-but, cuz Superman!?!" as if that leads to anything.
The irony here
That's not an argument. It's barely an excuse. Honestly, it's just whining because you want to escape constructive discussion.
Wrap yourselves in your Superman blankey. No problem. Just don't insult my intelligence and pretend it's an argument.
Originally posted by ODG
Don't confuse DC writer logic for KMC fanboy logic. Irony of what? Instead of a conversation, posters would rather just insist, "B-b-b-ut, cuz Superman!?!" as if that leads to anything.That's not an argument. It's barely an excuse. Honestly, it's just whining because you want to escape constructive discussion.
So yeah, Irony 😛
^ What question? I was distracted by the b1tch-a$$ wailing.
Supergirl isn't in this thread. Neither is Anti-Monitor.
Keep the butthurt in the right threads. No need to crawl through multiple threads with bloody butts and spread bloody sh1t streaks all over KMC because you end up thwarted in a random thread.
You want to talk about Supergirl and Anti-Monitor, revive those threads.
Originally posted by ODG
You want to talk about Supergirl and Anti-Monitor, revive those threads.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998What sort of begging the question, negative proof fallacy sh1te is this?
Like apparently you can't answer how much Darkseid was weakened, and Superboy survived a beating that assisted by someone you ranked above Speed Force(Nekron) for starter
It's on me to disprove multiversal true form Darkseid's power? How about we read the comics and you convince me why we should elevate him to the near peak of Abstract power that is personified by the Living Tribunal?
Originally posted by ODG
What sort of begging the question, negative proof fallacy sh1te is this?It's on me to disprove multiversal true form Darkseid's power? How about we read the comics and you convince me why we should elevate him to the near peak of Abstract power that is personified by the Living Tribunal?
Then later statement is a strawman, I never argued we should elevate him to the near peak of Abstract power that is personified by the Living Tribunal. I'm pointing out you using Dark Crisis to disprove his powers is iffy
Originally posted by ODG
^ F@cking Black Adam dispelled Pariah's chains... exactly how powerful were Pariah's chain debuffs that limited multiversal true form Darkseid to not even being able to defeat Superboy while assisted by every marquis DC supervillain?
Well, it debuffs to a point that let Empty Hand(and plus a lot of heavy hitters) can't kill a single Justice League member with multiple pages space.
To a point that Nekron(the guy you listed above SF) plus a lot of heavy hitters couldn't kill Superboy despite an extensive beating
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998So bow out of the conversation because that is what this thread is about. Not your butthurt.
Then later statement is a strawman, I never argued we should elevate him to the near peak of Abstract power that is personified by the Living Tribunal.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Where do you see Empty Hand? Him and Upside Down Man peaced out several issues in. Left the humiliation to be borne by the multiversal true form Darkseid who couldn't escape chains that Black Adam could dispel.
Black Adam's lightning also koed Pariah. Who was stated to be more powerful than Empty Hand(and the chains also enslaved him).Well, it debuffs to a point that let Empty Hand(and plus a lot of heavy hitters) can't kill a single Justice League member with multiple pages space.
To a point that Nekron(the guy you listed above SF) plus a lot of heavy hitters couldn't kill Superboy despite an extensive beating
Originally posted by ODG
So bow out of the conversation because that is what this thread is about. Not your butthurt. Where do you see Empty Hand? Him and Upside Down Man peaced out several issues in. Left the humiliation to be borne by the multiversal true form Darkseid who couldn't escape chains that Black Adam could dispel.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
That's some red herring or shifting the burden of proof TBH.
He was weakened to what point? Well, to the point that you said here. But we couldn't say how powerful he is when he isn't weakened. I don't think this is hard to understand.Plus, in Justice League (2018) 75, Empty Hand also failed to kill either Black Adam or Hawkgirl. And last time I checked, you seem to have a very high opinions on him
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Well, Empty Hand also was chained by it, Nekron also was chained by it. So why Darkseid chained by it is any different?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Ha. Empty Hand throws one attack there that is dodged. Multiversal true form Darkseid has his attacks blocked, tanked or outright thwarted. Don't try to equate Empty Hand to multiversal true form Darkseid. Empty Hand literally stomped on him.
Here, guess you really don't like read others' replies, right?Well, Empty Hand also was chained by it, Nekron also was chained by it. So why Darkseid chained by it is any different?
The desperation to elevate Darkseid to Empty Hand is f@cking revolting.
Originally posted by ODG
Ha. Empty Hand throws one attack there that is dodged. Multiversal true form Darkseid has his attacks blocked, tanked or outright thwarted. Don't try to equate Empty Hand to multiversal true form Darkseid. Empty Hand literally stomped on him.The desperation to elevate Darkseid to Empty Hand is f@cking revolting.
And you seem to choose to ignore Nekron's problem
And no, nobody equate Empty Hand to multiversal true form Darkseid, the strawman here is strong
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998No. I didn't say that. Simple.
So...you're saying Empty Hand couldn't hit Hawkgirl
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998I actually addressed it directly. So I'll repeat myself: It's called jobbing, schmuck. And, no, multiversal true form Darkseid doesn't get that excuse given that Nekron has an established history of power and station.
And you seem to choose to ignore Nekron's problem
Whereas, multiversal true form Darkseid doesn't. Got stepped on by the Empty Hand and then next time he showed up he struggled against Superboy while assisted by marquis DC supervillains.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Good. Because Empty Hand stomped on multiversal true form Darkseid. The strawman of trying to elevate multiversal true form Darkseid to Empty Hand's station is weak.
And no, nobody equate Empty Hand to multiversal true form Darkseid, the strawman here is strong
Originally posted by ODG
No. I didn't say that. Simple. I actually addressed it directly. So I'll repeat myself: It's called jobbing, schmuck. And, no, multiversal true form Darkseid doesn't get that excuse given that Nekron has an established history of power and station.Whereas, multiversal true form Darkseid doesn't. Got stepped on by the Empty Hand and then next time he showed up he struggled against Superboy while assisted by marquis DC supervillains. Good. Because Empty Hand stomped on multiversal true form Darkseid. The strawman of trying to elevate multiversal true form Darkseid to Empty Hand's station is weak.
Did I make myself clear?