Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Nah Glasgow and Dundee. We also had a full on civil war going on in Northern Ireland.
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This was just a couple of weeks ago. Guy in the red was shagging the guy in blacks missus. Guy in black decided to start stabbing everyone.
Turns out I used to work with his mother.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!That might be part of it. But I suspect that the definition used in the Canadian stat also encompasses more types of abusive behaviour. It goes well beyond physical violence and includes instances of insults/belittling, controlling reproductive decisions, financial control, "spiritual abuse", and using tech to observe/track/control your partner.
The US is less than Canada... I wonder if it's the long cold snowy nights... and in Alaska and Scotland it's as high.
Again, not exactly a 1:1 comparison between these figures from each country.
Originally posted by SmurphUK definitions do all that... US, maybe in some states and not in others. That's always the problem in the US, it isn't coherent on much. Each state probably has its own code.
That might be part of it. But I suspect that the definition used in the Canadian stat also encompasses more types of abusive behaviour. It goes well beyond physical violence and includes instances of insults/belittling, controlling reproductive decisions, financial control, "spiritual abuse", and using tech to observe/track/control your partner.Again, not exactly a 1:1 comparison between these figures from each country.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!The UK definition was expanded the year before that study. I wonder if you'll see an increase in numbers as people increasingly recognize certain behaviours as abusive and self-reporting improves.
UK definitions do all that... US, maybe in some states and not in others. That's always the problem in the US, it isn't coherent on much. Each state probably has its own code.
This 2014 EU study provides statistics for each EU state.
Looks like 30% of UK women surveyed reported physical or sexual violence from a partner at some point since they were 15, 44% from "partner or non-partner", while 46% reported psychological violence from a partner at some point in the same time span.
Originally posted by Smurphobviously these are very old figures, I'd actually expect given poverty and austerity measures the uk to be going up. Also, with the UK, like with some parts of Canada, high populations of individuals where certain kinds of abuse might not be considered abuse by those populations, are common. Toronto and London once vied for the most different languages in a city. I have no idea if they still do. Of course, Brexit, could have changed things the other way by getting rid of the poles and their violence and prorape views from the UK. 😖hifty:
The UK definition was expanded the year before that study. I wonder if you'll see an increase in numbers as people increasingly recognize certain behaviours as abusive and self-reporting improves.This 2014 EU study provides statistics for each EU state.
Looks like 30% of UK women surveyed reported physical or sexual violence from a partner at some point since they were 15, 44% from "partner or non-partner", while 46% reported psychological violence from a partner at some point in the same time span.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!I mean, 9 years isn't that much time when it's a survey of what people have experienced at some point in their adult lives. It's not like 9 years would explain a 24% reduction.
obviously these are very old figures, I'd actually expect given poverty and austerity measures the uk to be going up. Also, with the UK, like with some parts of Canada, high populations of individuals where certain kinds of abuse might not be considered abuse by those populations, are common. Toronto and London once vied for the most different languages in a city. I have no idea if they still do. Of course, Brexit, could have changed things the other way by getting rid of the poles and their violence and prorape views from the UK. 😖hifty:
And yeah, I would have expected Brexit + COVID to have increased the sorts of factors that correlate with domestic abuse.
Originally posted by Smurph9 years is a huge amount of time when you have had the societal changes going on in the world, and the changes to immigration and social norms that have almost been a shifting sea. Reporting, Police cuts, stigmatisation, the Trump effect, the rise of the right in Europe, and now its possible fall, strangely in Poland etc. etc. I have no idea the size any of these will affect that reports figures, but affect they will, and it won't be uniform. Add to that net immigration, change of demography for immigration etc. The last ten years have been strange. Your point on Covid is one I forgot, it surely put all kinds of things up... and down. I was in Africa for Covid and the closure there was short because many more people were dying due to poverty than Covid, oh, and Typhus, Malaria, Yellow Fever, child birth etc.
I mean, 9 years isn't that much time when it's a survey of what people have experienced at some point in their adult lives. It's not like 9 years would explain a 24% reduction.And yeah, I would have expected Brexit + COVID to have increased the sorts of factors that correlate with domestic abuse.
Also remember 10 years with an ageing population might increase or reduce many things. 10 years is about 15% of an individuals life... although that varies country to country.
Also the number of people not in relationships has increased especially in the under 40's. That well affect it, as domestic situations are reduced. Places like Poland have religion holding family structures together.