Originally posted by Patient_Leech
I mean, let's not lick Lucas's ass TOO hard. Just about everything interesting in Star Wars was taken from Dune, Valerian, John Carter of Mars, etc..
And Old Westerns and Flash Gordon and World War 2 films...
Takes a hell of an imagination to put those things together though.
I can't speak for Disney's Princess films, but for SW and Marvel the issue is two fold.
First, there is a big quality issue. They've just been churning out crap for awhile now and it's caused a lot of the fans to burn out. Not much more to say here.
Secondly, they aren't appealing to their core audience. People can ***** about it all they want but films do appeal to certain demographics more than others. Boys and young men are those most interested in MCU and SW movies. But instead of targeting their core demographic, Disney has been trying to expand it and appeal to others. But it rarely works. And worse, the core audience may also not turn up.
The Marvels is a clear example of this. This was a movie very obviously targeted to women but they didn't watch it. In fact, the vast majority of audience was men. Or course, many men didn't bother to see it because it wasn't "meant for them" and so now the film is poised to become the biggest box office bomb of all time. On the other hand, movies like Barbie and Top Gun Maverick (both the biggest films of their year) focused on pleasing their core demographic and were massive successes.
Originally posted by ares834
I can't speak for Disney's Princess films, but for SW and Marvel the issue is two fold.First, there is a big quality issue. They've just been churning out crap for awhile now and it's caused a lot of the fans to burn out. Not much more to say here.
Secondly, they aren't appealing to their core audience. People can ***** about it all they want but films do appeal to certain demographics more than others. Boys and young men are those most interested in MCU and SW movies. But instead of targeting their core demographic, Disney has been trying to expand it and appeal to others. But it rarely works. And worse, the core audience may also not turn up.
The Marvels is a clear example of this. This was a movie very obviously targeted to women but they didn't watch it. In fact, the vast majority of audience was men. Or course, many men didn't bother to see it because it wasn't "meant for them" and so now the film is poised to become the biggest box office bomb of all time. On the other hand, movies like Barbie and Top Gun Maverick (both the biggest films of their year) focused on pleasing their core demographic and were massive successes.
I think it's different from "make franchise for men and women" and "make franchise that men don't like so others would be attracted".
The Marvels is a good example of it. Women don't want to see 3 unattractive females with 0 romance plot.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
It doesn't really take imagination to plagiarize other sci-fi... lol
It does, Disney proved it.
Originally posted by NemeBro
It might be time to come out as gay if you think Brie Larson and Teyonah Parris are unattractive females.
I was mostly talking about their characters being lack of development. And women don't want to see the movies because of them. They usually prefer good looking guys, and Prince Yan got like 3 mins?
And yes I don't think they look good enough as superheroes.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I think for the rest of us Superhero fatigue and formulaic writing has set in. Like Scorsese, I want more than a roller coaster when I watch a film. I'd be more interested if Superhero films examined things like what life was like for the Superhero living in a human world.
Not superhero fatigue for me personally, bad Marvel media fatigue overall probably. It's not the same Marvel as it was before the Disney buyout. Everything is mostly boring now compared to the chaotically unfiltered fun mess we used to have.