Who can match this speed and durability??
Which of these character can match Ikaris speed and durability in this showing. He made it to the sun in seconds. He withstood the sun for a prolong amount of time. Who can match it?
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Superman
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Wonder Woman
Darkseid
Vision
Phoenix
Re: Who can match this speed and durability??
Originally posted by carver9
Which of these character can match Ikaris speed and durability in this showing. He made it to the sun in seconds. He withstood the sun for a prolong amount of time. Who can match it?EoIbZJH2ajE?si=ihv7ZEnLKtmYDfm8
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Thor
Wonder Woman
Darkseid
Vision
Phoenix
Screen time with cut scenes =/= real time necessarily.
It could have taken him minutes to reach the Sun.
In the final scene he's moving far below the speed of light before he enters the Sun. It's not certain how long it took So that part is disqualified from the thread.
The surface of the Sun is about 5600 degrees Celsius. Ikaris was show to last maybe 5 seconds?
Kryptonian's HV has sliced through steel I-beams with a swipe.
Based off Newton's Law of cooling the temperature of the HV has to be many times hotter than the boiling point of steel in order to melt steel that fast (almost instantly). Kryptonians were shown to withstand such HV without too much damage (it did hurt them though). So Superman can definitely withstand the surface of the sun for 5 seconds. Hell it would make him more powerful (more durable).
Thor can obviously withstand the Sun for 5 seconds.
Darkseid has no feats.
Scaling Vision off Ultron then Vision can withstand Sun for 5 seconds. As Ultron survived Thor's lightning for more than 5 seconds.
WW has no feats, unless you count her absorbing Ares lightning (which is far hotter than the Sun).
Which Phoenix? She has no feats of extreme heat that I can remember. But she does have heat resistant feats. So I'll give here the benefit of the doubt (depending on which version)
Re: Re: Who can match this speed and durability??
Originally posted by h1a8
Screen time with cut scenes =/= real time necessarily.
It could have taken him minutes to reach the Sun.
In the final scene he's moving far below the speed of light before he enters the Sun. It's not certain how long it took So that part is disqualified from the thread.The surface of the Sun is about 5600 degrees Celsius. Ikaris was show to last maybe 5 seconds?
Kryptonian's HV has sliced through steel I-beams with a swipe.
Based off Newton's Law of cooling the temperature of the HV has to be many times hotter than the boiling point of steel in order to melt steel that fast (almost instantly). Kryptonians were shown to withstand such HV without too much damage (it did hurt them though). So Superman can definitely withstand the surface of the sun for 5 seconds. Hell it would make him more powerful (more durable).Thor can obviously withstand the Sun for 5 seconds.
Darkseid has no feats.
Scaling Vision off Ultron then Vision can withstand Sun for 5 seconds. As Ultron survived Thor's lightning for more than 5 seconds.
WW has no feats, unless you count her absorbing Ares lightning (which is far hotter than the Sun).
Which Phoenix? She has no feats of extreme heat that I can remember. But she does have heat resistant feats. So I'll give here the benefit of the doubt (depending on which version)
1. The sun's corona, which you have to pass through to reach the surface is 1,000,000 °c
2. WW absorbed Doomsday's heat Vision which was more powerful than Superman's.
Originally posted by tkitna
More than likely. Guys damn near as fast as Flash in the DCEU and let's not even get into the Reeve's Superman.
Ikaris speed showing is far above light. It takes light 8 minutes to make it to the sun, Ikaris flew there in seconds. Flash has ran at the speed of light. Neither Supes nor Flash has speed showings anywhere close to this from what I've seen. Also, Flash was holding back against Supes.
Originally posted by carver9
Ikaris speed showing is far above light. It takes light 8 minutes to make it to the sun, Ikaris flew there in seconds. Flash has ran at the speed of light. Neither Supes nor Flash has speed showings anywhere close to this from what I've seen. Also, Flash was holding back against Supes.
I'm not debating that Flash isnt faster, but he seemed shocked and surprised that Superman was damn near as fast as he was and he wasn't holding back trying to dodge his blows. That's reflex speed anyways and we're talking flying so its a moot point in the grand scheme of things.
The Ikaris feat seemed to have a time lapse in the film though so there might be context to it. It's the way I perceived it anyways.
Not arguing with you Carv. I'm really not. I just gave my opinion based on assumption and still stand by it.
Originally posted by tkitna
I'm not debating that Flash isnt faster, but he seemed shocked and surprised that Superman was damn near as fast as he was and he wasn't holding back trying to dodge his blows. That's reflex speed anyways and we're talking flying so its a moot point in the grand scheme of things.The Ikaris feat seemed to have a time lapse in the film though so there might be context to it. It's the way I perceived it anyways.
Not arguing with you Carv. I'm really not. I just gave my opinion based on assumption and still stand by it.
Nuuh, I wouldn't consider this arguing. We are debating which is pretty got darn fun to do. Hopefully I'm not coming off aggressive. I agree with you on your points by the way
Originally posted by carver9DCU Superman should be able considering he literally gets his powers from the sun and survived a nuke.
Which of these character can match Ikaris speed and durability in this showing. He made it to the sun in seconds. He withstood the sun for a prolong amount of time. Who can match it?EoIbZJH2ajE?si=ihv7ZEnLKtmYDfm8
Superman
Thor
Wonder Woman
Darkseid
Vision
Phoenix
Thor could do it at least for awhile, going off his Nidavellir scene
Wonder Woman has no showings unless her braces can somehow protect her. But she can't fly, so how is she getting there?
Darkseid has no showings, but with implied power he probably could. But he can't fly, so how is he getting there?
Vision likely could by going intangible.
Phoenix - I don't recall much of her after X3, so no comment