Was a decent film overall, a lot less warfare than I expected in a film about a fictional 2nd civil war. Acting was pretty solid all around, even though this didn't have any heavy hitters.
Nick Offerman played the demagogue dictator disguised as a populist really well. Just a handful of small scenes, but great.
I watched this and rather liked it. It's a hard watch at times. Very heavy and matter-of-fact with the violence. It largely avoids politics, probably smartly. The photojournalism route is a very interesting take.
Originally posted by Robtard
Concerning the separatist:Spoiler:But again, it's said in the beginning.
The separatist are the good guys, they're fighting against the dictator to restore a democracy
Hm, I suspect you're probably right considering the President's rhetoric, but I didn't catch any dialogue that states that explicitly. (But then again I didn't understand every line of dialogue without subs, so maybe I missed something.) But I think they smartly kept it pretty vague.
My only issue was
Spoiler:. That was weird, but otherwise a great movie. That scene with Jesse Plemons that you see a bit of in the trailer: goddamn.
the sort of cheesy end with Kirsten Dunst saving the girl, dying, and then the movie doesn't even address her death?
I think this guy's take is pretty good...
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Originally posted by Patient_Leech
I watched this and rather liked it. It's a hard watch at times. Very heavy and matter-of-fact with the violence. It largely avoids politics, probably smartly. The photojournalism route is a very interesting take.Hm, I suspect you're probably right considering the President's rhetoric, but I didn't catch any dialogue that states that explicitly. (But then again I didn't understand every line of dialogue without subs, so maybe I missed something.) But I think they smartly kept it pretty vague.
My only issue was
Spoiler:. That was weird, but otherwise a great movie. That scene with Jesse Plemons that you see a bit of in the trailer: goddamn.
the sort of cheesy end with Kirsten Dunst saving the girl, dying, and then the movie doesn't even address her death?I think this guy's take is pretty good...
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The old black reporter explicitly states/jokes that the President
Spoiler:
used force to go a 3rd term and has droned US civilians on American soil
Originally posted by Robtard
The old black reporter explicitly states/jokes that the PresidentSpoiler:
used force to go a 3rd term and has droned US civilians on American soil
I do vaguely remember the airstrikes
Spoiler:
on Americans portion.
I totally missed the
Spoiler:. Though I heard others mention it in reviews I watched.
3rd term line
There are some elements that are a little odd, though, and I guess it's hard to make it all make sense in a film like this, but I'm assuming the oppressive military factions trying to suppress the WF and fight for the President would want to destroy all press and journalists without a second thought. Right? So why Jesse Plemons' character would even hesitate at all to just murder them all seems a bit odd. I would assume they wouldn't hold ANY reverence for the press and journalists. I guess you could say they were just dragging it out for a bit of 'fun'. But other battle sequences where they're avoiding hitting the press seems unlikely, except that you'd probably want to save ammunition for the ones shooting back at you.
But I loved the photo journalist aspect. It was great the way it gave you a weird, quasi-detached vantage point to everything going on. You were in it, but not entirely. Just going along for the 'ride.' So it provided a little different POV than other war movies.
Also... (BIG spoiler)
Spoiler:. But it certainly is a happy ending.
it seems highly improbable that a scenario like this would end with the rebels hunting down and killing the President considering all the military and defense he would have at his disposal
To me, Plemons character seemed to be doing his own thing afforded by the safety a war brings, he appeared to be your average Rightwing racist living out his
Spoiler:. While he appeared to be part of the President's faction, I don't think he was acting specifically on behalf of any government. But maybe.
murder-revenge fantasies, mostly on non-white people.
The story implied and then stated that the President
Spoiler:to the WF.
was losing support and his own forces where surrendering
Eh, kinda. He was more making the point that rational people regardless of political views can all agree that fascism is bad and having a President who acts like a dictator is bad.
California and Texas also have the most active duty, plus coastal access for ships. Kinda needed the heavy hitters to join up in order to take on the rest.
Originally posted by Robtard
Eh, kinda. He was more making the point that rational people regardless of political views can all agree that fascism is bad and having a President who acts like a dictator is bad.California and Texas also have the most active duty, plus coastal access for ships. Kinda needed the heavy hitters to join up in order to take on the rest.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Probably the first and only time I'll see a movie based on a real event that just hasn't happened yet. Looking forward to November to see it happen for real. 😂
Good point. But I doubt it will play out the way it does in the movie. Probably won't be such a happy ending.