MCU Hulk vs. Aquaman

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They did, by having him written as such (an honourable warrior who does not mercilessly go for killing blows at the start of a fight against unarmed, in this case topless, opponents). I asked for proof that he would, as you assert, and I get.... nothing. Which shows me that you have zero proof of his propensity to do so against an unarmed, half naked (i.e. unarmoured) opponent.

Thanks.

The best (and only one) you should have posted, was him against Superman - but I don't think he was trying to kill him there.

And Superman just punched him away.

Lol
That's the only way to fight with a bladed weapon. You cant ko an opponent with a sword. Any movie fight with a bladed weapon will show attempted strikes that can cause death or severe injury if landed.

You are arguing not only against how all fight scenes with bladed weapons are shown but against common sense.

With that said,
Imo it's not a loss (in the spirit of who is more formidable) if someone loses because the only way to win is to kill but they choose not to kill.

Plus Arthur knows Hulk is stronger than him.

Plus you are making shit up (your own rules of honor). There are no universal rules of honor. Imo it is not unhonorable to attempt to kill an unarmed combatant if the are more powerful than you.

And thank you. Arthur tried to stab the shit out of Superman. That also defeats your argument.

Originally posted by h1a8
Lol
That's the only way to fight with a bladed weapon. You cant ko an opponent with a sword. Any movie fight with a bladed weapon will show attempted strikes that can cause death or severe injury if landed.

You are arguing not only against how all fight scenes with bladed weapons are shown but against common sense.

With that said,
Imo it's not a loss (in the spirit of who is more formidable) if someone loses because the only way to win is to kill but they choose not to kill.

Plus Arthur knows Hulk is stronger than him.

Plus you are making shit up (your own rules of honor). There are no universal rules of honor. Imo it is not unhonorable to attempt to kill an unarmed combatant if the are more powerful than you.

And thank you. Arthur tried to stab the shit out of Superman. That also defeats your argument.

My argument was that he won't go for a KILLING blow against Hulk.

The example with Superman....he wasn't trying to kill him (hence my usage of it).

Since you so graciously accepted it, it means you accept my argument as well. Glad we agree.

Guys, this is how you defeat H1 - I've done it numerous times now.

Let me remind you, H1:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Does he have the propensity to slash his opponents' throats? To kill?

He wasn't trying to kill Superman🙂 guess you lost sight of what you're trying to argue.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My argument was that he won't go for a KILLING blow against Hulk.

The example with Superman....he wasn't trying to kill him (hence my usage of it).

Since you so graciously accepted it, it means you accept my argument as well. Glad we agree.

Guys, this is how you defeat H1 - I've done it numerous times now.

Let me remind you, H1:

He wasn't trying to kill Superman🙂 guess you lost sight of what you're trying to argue.

My point is that you can argue intentions all you want. But it all goes out of the window with bladed weapons in movie scenes. They are used to kill or cause severe injury. The are not for knocking someone out. Every fight, no matter how honorable someone is, shows them at least once attempting a strike that can kill if landed. These are bladed weapons for crying out loud. What do you expect?

I gave multiple examples of how Arthur made attempted a strike (that if landed will kill or cause great bodily harm) in his fight scenes. You listed one of them, a damning one too.

Originally posted by h1a8
For Superman
So stabbing someone in the chest or neck area isn't is killing blow? Good to know. I learn something every day.

My point is that you can argue intentions all you want. But it all goes out of the window with bladed weapons in movie scenes. They are used to kill or cause severe injury. The are not for knocking someone out. Every fight, no matter how honorable someone is, shows them at least once attempting a strike that can kill if landed. These are bladed weapons for crying out loud. What do you expect?

I gave multiple examples of how Arthur made attempted a strike (that if landed will kill or cause great bodily harm) in his fight scenes. You listed one of them, a damning one too.

Rewatch the scene again .....he wasn't trying to kill Superman, lol. Do you even know what scene I'm talking about????

Originally posted by h1a8
I learn something every day.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
They havent even officially confirmed Hulk gets stronger as he gets madder.

Something again Ang Lee did make clear in his one film.

So yeah MCU has done Hulk dirty (somewhat) in multiple ways. The Snap was the perfect time to confirm his healing abilities but I guess they wanted She-Hulk to the rescue instead.

He got stronger and overpowered Abomination when Betty was in trouble, but I don't know if people are including that movie for whatever reason.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Rewatch the scene again .....he wasn't trying to kill Superman, lol. Do you even know what scene I'm talking about????

The scene where AM tries to stab Superman center of mass. I just watched the scene.

The Leviathans were said by Zak Penn, co-writer of the first Avengers, to be probably like three million tons. While that figure is incredibly stupid and would make them cartoonishly dense this still means that Penn saw no problem with having Hulk punch and flip something which weighs three million tons.

Even the most charitable estimates of Aquaman's submarine feat put it at about 20,000 tons or so (accounting for not just the submarine's weight but things like drag and displacing all that water so quickly), well short of Hulk's strength.

Only Kryptonians have feats or statements around or in excess of strength like that in the DCEU.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The Leviathans were said by Zak Penn, co-writer of the first Avengers, to be probably like three million tons. While that figure is incredibly stupid and would make them cartoonishly dense this still means that Penn saw no problem with having Hulk punch and flip something which weighs three million tons.

Even the most charitable estimates of Aquaman's submarine feat put it at about 20,000 tons or so (accounting for not just the submarine's weight but things like drag and displacing all that water so quickly), well short of Hulk's strength.

Only Kryptonians have feats or statements around or in excess of strength like that in the DCEU.

Leviathans range from 100-500tons.
I forgot my actual calculations.

Anything above 500 tons is completely false.

Originally posted by h1a8
Leviathans range from 100-500tons.
I forgot my actual calculations.

Anything above 500 tons is completely false.

Your calculation don't mean crap. Lol. Write your own movie with your own calculations. Your real to you physics don't pertain to fictional movies.

Originally posted by h1a8
Leviathans range from 100-500tons.
I forgot my actual calculations.

Anything above 500 tons is completely false.

But it doesn't matter what you calculate. Per the writer of the film it's three million tons, so clearly Hulk flipping three million tons while it is in motion is accurate to his capabilities per the writer.

Originally posted by h1a8
The scene where AM tries to stab Superman center of mass. I just watched the scene.

Did you miss the part where WW said 'We have to kill him?'. Oh wait, that never happened.

Originally posted by NemeBro
That actually is closer to being "accurate", though being the agenda-having piece of shit scumbag you are you're lowballing it.

But it doesn't matter what you calculate. Per the writer of the film it's three million tons, so clearly Hulk flipping three million tons while it is in motion is accurate to his capabilities per the writer.

It's 1 pound because I said so. And my word goes more than anyone else's.
How do you like that?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Did you miss the part where WW said 'We have to kill him?'. Oh wait, that never happened.

Doesn't matter. All that matters is the action.

I can attempt to stab you in the throat without intending to kill you in a movie.

Originally posted by h1a8
Doesn't matter. All that matters is the action.

I can attempt to stab you in the throat without intending to kill you in a movie.

Very interesting. So you agree he doesn't go for killing blows. Good we both agree.

Now, you are trying to move it to throat stabbing (I thought you said you saw him attempting to stab his center of mass? Curious how quickly you change positions lmao).

Speaking of changing positions, looks like you ARE learning something new everyday🙂

Now, how long do you think Superman's arms are?

Originally posted by tkitna
He got stronger and overpowered Abomination when Betty was in trouble, but I don't know if people are including that movie for whatever reason.

It counts. And that certainly hinted that he gets stronger as he gets madder. It's just not stated anywhere yet IIRC. My point is that if we didn't know that was a thing from the comics, or the Ang Lee film, then we wouldn't think that was a thing in the MCU.

But I've already stated that if nothing else, MCU Hulk clearly recovers fast. Whether that's due to healing, or getting stronger, who knows. Would be nice if they confirmed something on screen. It's only a line.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Very interesting. So you agree he doesn't go for killing blows. Good we both agree.

Now, you are trying to move it to throat stabbing (I thought you said you saw him attempting to stab his center of mass? Curious how quickly you change positions lmao).

Speaking of changing positions, looks like you ARE learning something new everyday🙂

Now, how long do you think Superman's arms are?

Your reading comprehension is failing. I never claimed or implied he tried to stab Superman in the throat. I just gave an example of a killing shot without trying to kill.

His intentions may not be to kill (debatable) but he will go for killing shots as
1. That's how he fights
2. He has no choice but to attack that way with a bladed weapon

Originally posted by h1a8
It's 1 pound because I said so. And my word goes more than anyone else's.
How do you like that?

So you admit that you ignore facts and intentions from the writers and only believe what you believe?

Concession accepted. You can quit now.

Originally posted by h1a8
Your reading comprehension is failing. I never claimed or implied he tried to stab Superman in the throat. I just gave an example of a killing shot without trying to kill.

His intentions may not be to kill (debatable) but he will go for killing shots as
1. That's how he fights
2. He has no choice but to attack that way with a bladed weapon

You mean..... I gave an example 😂 not you. I was the one who referenced it, shall I refresh your memory (yet again)?

So back to square one. When has he ever gone for killing attacks when fighting an unarmed opponent? Please show examples. What's his propensity😂

Also, you DO know the trident isn't bladed, right? 😂 come back when you actually know what you're arguing.

Originally posted by tkitna
So you admit that you ignore facts and intentions from the writers and only believe what you believe?

Concession accepted. You can quit now.

It's hilarious how badly he gets whipped but is unable to understand how badly.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You mean.....[B] I gave an example 😂 not you. I was the one who referenced it, shall I refresh your memory (yet again)?

So back to square one. When has he ever gone for killing attacks when fighting an unarmed opponent? Please show examples. What's his propensity😂

Also, you DO know the trident isn't bladed, right? 😂 come back when you actually know what you're arguing.

It's hilarious how badly he gets whipped but is unable to understand how badly..... [/B]

You are making up rules that he will not go for killing attacks against more unarmed but powerful opponents vs armed opponents (who are not necessarily more powerful).

He went for a center of mass stab against Superman. That's a killing blow.

If Steppenwolf would have had his axe knocked away the AM would have still went for killing attacks against him.