Because Superman's willpower + intelligence is elite
The other's figured out how to escape their worlds but Superman figured out how to use their "mental connection to the construction of the worlds" to deconstruct the worlds. They achieved escaping the dream; he achieved lucid dreaming.
I'm just repeating the words that are on the page man. It's all right there. Just like, take a breather and re-read it. Slowly.
Originally posted by Smurph
Because Superman's willpower + intelligence is eliteThe other's figured out how to escape their worlds but Superman figured out how to use their "mental connection to the construction of the worlds" to deconstruct the worlds. They achieved escaping the dream; he achieved lucid dreaming.
I'm just repeating the words that are on the page man. It's all right there. Just like, take a breather and re-read it. Slowly.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Pariah outright creates new realities on panel bro.In fact, the universe where Superman is gets infected by great darkness just like prime Earth.
I didn't take you for such a carver like attitude.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So did the rest of the League when they escaped their worlds, none of them destroyed their worlds.This is lulzworthy.
Yes carvster, Hulk's pants have planetary durability.
Riddle me this Smurph, the rest of the League also escaped their worlds and became aware of their true selves yet none of them destroyed their worlds. Why was that?
ABHI, this is not how this works. You're giving Superman fts while neglecting the same thing for other characters. That's called picking and choosing. Also, lol, cloths tend to survive everything. This is how comics work. Prime was fully dressed when he survived universal destruction. Hyperion was fully dressed. This doesn't change the fact that Wonder Woman and Batman per your argument survived universal destruction. Stop picking and choosing.
Originally posted by carver9
ABHI, this is not how this works. You're giving Superman fts while neglecting the same thing for other characters. That's called picking and choosing. Also, lol, cloths tend to survive everything. This is how comics work. Prime was fully dressed when he survived universal destruction. Hyperion was fully dressed. This doesn't change the fact that Wonder Woman and Batman per your argument survived universal destruction. Stop picking and choosing.
Upon another reading of the full material here, I've changed my stance. Looking over these, it 100 percent looked like a willpower feat. Pariah did use Crisis energy to create universes for each of them, linked directly to each of their minds. While they were in these worlds, he was using the power of the Justice League to replace he multiverse with a recreated Infinite Earths multiverse that wasnt quite finalized yet. Their power not only gave him the energy to do it, but also were the stabilizing force of the new multiverse. I can only imagine that this was a bit of a modern throwback to AntiMonitor using the heros energy in COIE, but a bit more complex.
What Superman did, was absorb those universes worth of Crisis energy[at minimum his own, but they were standing on a blank canvas], and then free the league, and that made Pariah fall short on energy and he went pleading for more power.
So, what he really did was absorb a universe[s] of cosmic power/creation energy.
When you combine feats like this with stuff like fighting amped Apex Lex, Lex using Superman to absorb enough of the Totality to bring back Perpetua, then tanking a shot of that power and then immediately turning around and tanking Umbrax blast that was meant to destroy White Lantern Earth with 'an unquantifiable amount of energy', among all the other shit he's done recently, he really doesnt have any peer.
Originally posted by JuntaiEh... sure?
Upon another reading of the full material here, I've changed my stance. Looking over these, it 100 percent looked like a willpower feat. Pariah did use Crisis energy to create universes for each of them, linked directly to each of their minds. While they were in these worlds, he was using the power of the Justice League to replace he multiverse with a recreated Infinite Earths multiverse that wasnt quite finalized yet. Their power not only gave him the energy to do it, but also were the stabilizing force of the new multiverse. I can only imagine that this was a bit of a modern throwback to AntiMonitor using the heros energy in COIE, but a bit more complex.What Superman did, was absorb those universes worth of Crisis energy[at minimum his own, but they were standing on a blank canvas], and then free the league, and that made Pariah fall short on energy and he went pleading for more power.
So, what he really did was absorb a universe[s] of cosmic power/creation energy.
I mean, I don't want to get into the merits of arguing this as an "absorption" feat. All of that can be true or false and it doesn't change the conclusion that Superman was able to "destroy" (or, absorb) the universe, not because of the sheer might of him powering up, but because of the nature of the worlds themselves and the JLA's inherent connection to their makeup and stability.
Abhi can pivot from arguing "Superman can destroy a universe by powering up" to "Superman can absorb a universe worth of crisis energy", if he agrees with you, but it would be a pivot for sure.
well, yeah juntai. i assumed that's sorta what you meant by willpower? he did use the energy of the created world--he studied for seemingly a very long time, learned HOW to use it and finally did. i assume it takes a great deal of will to do that, but also, he's superman and figured out what no one else did. :/ it's a cool feat but it isn't at all what abhi is making it out to be. as usual.
did he absorb the energy? yeah i think so to achieve whatever this true form superman was intended to be. but yeah--abhi's interpretation is grossly misleading. not that he would ever admit it. 😂
Originally posted by Smurph
Eh... sure?I mean, I don't want to get into the merits of arguing this as an "absorption" feat. All of that can be true or false and it doesn't change the conclusion that Superman was able to "destroy" (or, absorb) the universe, not because of the sheer might of him powering up, but because of the nature of the worlds themselves and the JLA's inherent connection to their makeup and stability.
Abhi can pivot from arguing "Superman can destroy a universe by powering up" to "Superman can absorb a universe worth of crisis energy", if he agrees with you, but it would be a pivot for sure.
Originally posted by leonidas
well, yeah juntai. i assumed that's sorta what you meant by willpower? he did use the energy of the created world--he studied for seemingly a very long time, learned HOW to use it and finally did. i assume it takes a great deal of will to do that, but also, he's superman and figured out what no one else did. :/ it's a cool feat but it isn't at all what abhi is making it out to be. as usual.did he absorb the energy? yeah i think so to achieve whatever this true form superman was intended to be. but yeah--abhi's interpretation is grossly misleading. not that he would ever admit it. 😂
I mean it’s pretty obvious that it has to do with their link to it, even Superman mentions it as he absorbs the energy. Calling it an idealized ‘dream world’ and that he’s ’become Lucid’, meaning he’s taking control of it. Them absorbs it. If you want to call that a destruction feat, okay, but it’s more will and absorption.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah it's not the power of love.It's just their own imagination holding the worlds together. As I said, Batman's world was fading - that wasn't Superman's doing. As the JL were 'freed', their worlds were dissolving.
Put succinctly, I'm not claiming Bats is a world destroyer - but his world was destroyed once he stopped believing in it.
All of you are just Batman haters, smh. Batman's world was fading too but I don't see you lot arguing whether he's a universe destroyer.
AND he didn't even need to flex.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
All of you are just Batman haters, smh. Batman's world was fading too but I don't see you lot arguing whether he's a universe destroyer.AND he didn't even need to flex.
according to abhi that's all that should be required. lol if anything bats is MORE impressive because, as you said, no flex needed. 👆 as with most things, bats once again proves he's >superman lol