Star Wars: The Acolyte

Yeah, as Darth Thor already pointed out, Anakin has officially been conceived by the Force.

Nope. It's deliberately left ambiguous.

I remember some years ago one of Vader comics alluded to him being created by Plagueis and Sidious, but then one guy from Lucasfilm story group (Matt Martin I think) immediately clarified that was not the official explanation of Anakin’s birth.

Just shows how big of hacks these guys are. Anyone while it may not have been the intent, anyone with some even basic understanding of SW and who was paying attention to the comic should have picked up what it seemed to suggest.

Btw even if Plagueis learned about this power from the witches and used it generate Anakin, why would it make him less special?

Because it removes the uniqueness of Anakin's birth. I also hate the idea that Plagueis learned it from the coven. The point was that Plagueis, being the culmination of a thousand years of Sith teaching, was so knowledgeable and powerful he was able to master life and death to such a degree that he even discovered how to create life. But now he might have just learned it from a backwater cult of witches. It's lame.

Well, guess this was the best episode so far. Didn’t expect Jecki and Yord to die as well tbh, we’re just past half of this season… I enjoyed this episode, Qimir looks cool as a Sith, although Sol had some PIS (why did he allow Qimir to grab his lightsaber again after he had been defeated? You can’t kill an unarmed person but you can let him be killed by giant insects… then just kill him yourself! And why didn’t he recover Qimir’s helmet? Surely there must be on eredi with psychometric who could have helped him learn more about Qimir…)

Anyway, I also have a hard time understanding how powerful Qimir truly is. When he force pushed all those Jedi, I thought he was Sidious level, and if not that, at least Vader level. But then he had an even fight against a Padawan, who could even land a hit on him. And about that, during the fight he was saved a bunch of times by his armour: two fodder Jedi hit him in the head but the helmet blocked it, then Jecki did in their 1v1. Yord and Sol may have done it too, but I’m not sure. If you take away his armour and let him fight like any other SW character, would he still be able to take on so many Jedi at once? Literally this guy could be anywhere from Kit Fisto level to Count Dooku

Originally posted by ares834
Nope. It's deliberately left ambiguous.

Just shows how big of hacks these guys are. Anyone while it may not have been the intent, anyone with some even basic understanding of SW and who was paying attention to the comic should have picked up what it seemed to suggest.

Because it removes the uniqueness of Anakin's birth. I also hate the idea that Plagueis learned it from the coven. The point was that Plagueis, being the culmination of a thousand years of Sith teaching, was so knowledgeable and powerful he was able to master life and death to such a degree that he even discovered how to create life. But now he might have just learned it from a backwater cult of witches. It's lame.

I can't believe it was actually the asian guy. It was far too obvious, yet they went with it anyway.

No shit. Like I said, this show is dumb. It's written for dumb people.

Originally posted by Total Warrior
Just look at it this way, the lesbians found this power, Plagueis took it, mastered it to the point he created a much more powerful being in Anakin

It's horseshit either way. I don't particularly care about power levels. The point was that Plageuis delved so deeply into the secrets of live/death that he discovered how to create it. That's gone now if he just got it from the witches.

Yep. Okay lightsaber fight, at least. If you don't count the part where a Sith Lord got his ass beat by a child and had to resort some bullshit trickery to kill her.

Great lightsaber duel honestly. Easily the best since RotS. Shame that the writing is not up to scratch.

Lmao at how unsurprising the Reveal was.

But yeah nice duel. The killing multiple Jedi scene is what we were missing in ROTS.

Though two lightsabers still doubles your power apparently 😛

I'm guessing Qimir is actually the Sith Apprentice. And that either Tenebrous or Plagueis is his Master and will be looking for a new student by the end of this.

Originally posted by Total Warrior
Anyway, I noticed a huuuge part of the Star Wars fandom misunderstands what a Sith actually is. Sooo many people are complaining about Ki Adi Mundi knowing about Mae, which apparently contradicts his famous quote “The Sith have been extinct for 1000 years”.
Attacking a Jedi and using the dark side doesn’t make you a Sith. Even having a red lightsaber doesn’t automatically mean you’re a Sith. There are several canon comics or games with darksiders who attack the Jedi, yet they aren’t considered Sith: they may be fallen Jedi (like Dagan Gera or Taron Malicos), affiliates to other orders (like the Sorcerer of the Tund who massacred Vildar Mac’s village in 400 BBY) or just random force users with no affiliations (like Baylan Skoll and Shin Hati).
I remember there is one comic set shortly before EP2 where Count Dooku and a Jedi collaborate to track down a criminal sindicate. At a certain point during a fight Dooku ignites his new red lightsaber and while the other Jedi is initially surprised by the colour it’s not like he automatically assumes Dooku is a Sith.

It’s just dumb to complain about the Jedi not calling Mae a Sith

^ Tbf Ki-Adi-Mundi also refuses to believe Dooku could go bad in AOTC. So him knowing anything about a potential former Jedi training an assassin, or just anything that even hints to Sith really shouldn't happen.

But Prequels tend to mess with continuity.

Originally posted by ares834
No shit. Like I said, this show is dumb. It's written for dumb people.

It's horseshit either way. I don't particularly care about power levels. The point was that Plageuis delved so deeply into the secrets of live/death that he discovered how to create it. That's gone now if he just got it from the witches.

As far as I understood it, Plagueis's thing was more about how to manipulate life to avoid death.

Anyway will wait for the end of the series before I make any proper judgment on that. But so far the show's weakness isn't ruining canon. It's more so just being kinda dumb.

The idea was that he was delving into these deep mysteries, likely in pursuit of immortality, and discovered these incredible and unnatural powers. But it's undermined if he just got it from some lame coven.

And both things can be true. The show can be poor quality (it is) and also introduce concepts that weaken the overall SW lore.

Episode 5 was the best of this series so far, IMO

I do not care for any of the imbecilic, dumbass, ignorant, infantile, fragile children

if you have actual legit gripes then yes but if you gonna be infantile then FRACK YOU

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You are just obsessed with defending wokeness at all cost, Rob.

The reveal makes Anakin not special, that's the problem.

I am? Screaming "wokeness" at everything people don't like has made the term meaningless.

Well, no? Because Anakin's mother was raped by The Force, so he could bring balance. The force-twins were created by their stupid mother. So you can stop crying about Anakin the great White savior not being special, he's still special... for now 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
Well, no? Because Anakin's mother was raped by The Force, so he could bring balance. The force-twins were created by their stupid mother. So you can stop crying about Anakin the great White savior not being special, he's still special... for now 🙂

People keep saying this, but as I've pointed out again and again, Anakin's conception is deliberately kept ambiguous. He may have very well been created by Plagueis or Palaptine (FYI, in the earliest script the later was explicitly the case). Personally, I subscribe to the theory he was created by the Sith. I think there is a certain poetic irony to the whole thing that makes it more powerful.

Qimir is a great Sith Lord btw.

When he said “You don’t remember me?”, do you think he was just talking about their previous encounter in EP2, or there is more to it?

Originally posted by ares834
People keep saying this, but as I've pointed out again and again, Anakin's conception is deliberately kept ambiguous. He may have very well been created by Plagueis or Palaptine (FYI, in the earliest script the later was explicitly the case). Personally, I subscribe to the theory he was created by the Sith. I think there is a certain poetic irony to the whole thing that makes it more powerful.

Unused scripts would not override the final product, yeah? What we learned in ep1 points more strongly to the the Force being the "father", least how I see it. The very nature of the Force is to bring balance, this is drilled into us viewers ad nauseam and when Vader sacrifices himself to save Luke and kill Palps, it balanced things out.

I do like the view on Anakin being the spawn of Sith machinations and Palpatine's tale to Anakin about Plagueis' ability to "create life" does lend some weight to that, but I think that tale was a chess move to turn Anakin darkside, due to his foresight of Padme's death.

Originally posted by Robtard
Unused scripts would not override the final product, yeah? What we learned in ep1 points more strongly to the the Force being the "father", least how I see it. The very nature of the Force is to bring balance, this is drilled into us viewers ad nauseam and when Vader sacrifices himself to save Luke and kill Palps, it balanced things out.

I do like the view on Anakin being the spawn of Sith machinations and Palpatine's tale to Anakin about Plagueis' ability to "create life" does lend some weight to that, but I think that tale was a chess move to turn Anakin darkside, due to his foresight of Padme's death.

Yeah tbh Palpy coming back to life stronger than ever and Rey killing him for good just 30 years after EP6 is much worse.

But then, we had the same issue in Legends with DE Palpy. Though you could argue that Anakin still had a hand in his defeat since it was his son who did it

Originally posted by Total Warrior
Yeah tbh Palpy coming back to life stronger than ever and Rey killing him for good just 30 years after EP6 is much worse.

But then, we had the same issue in Legends with DE Palpy. Though you could argue that Anakin still had a hand in his defeat since it was his son who did it

Ep7 wasn't terrible imo, though extremely lazy and safe by giving us a basic repeat of what we've seen before. But bringing back Palps was just lame, surely they could do something even slightly different. I can't watch ep7-9 again, especially ep9.

Honestly felt that Palpatine wasn't supposed to be in it when they finished ep7, but was written in after ep7 under-performed.

Originally posted by Robtard
I am? Screaming "wokeness" at everything people don't like has made the term meaningless.

Well, no? Because Anakin's mother was raped by The Force, so he could bring balance. The force-twins were created by their stupid mother. So you can stop crying about Anakin the great White savior not being special, he's still special... for now 🙂

As we found out in the Sequel Trilogy, his sacrifice meant very little in the long term.

Kathleen Kennedy has a hateboner for Anakin, it's really that simple.

Anakin, Luke and Han too. I wonder what they all have in common...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
As we found out in the Sequel Trilogy, his sacrifice meant very little in the long term.

Kathleen Kennedy has a hateboner for Anakin, it's really that simple.

I'm not a fan of the sequel trilogy as I've said, but I don't buy the angle that Anakin's ep6 sacrifice meant nothing because of ep7-9. The Force is always trying to find balance, but rarely in balance, why we have space drama we do.

Kathleen Kennedy doesn't have some nefarious plan to destroy Star Wars like the dudebros cry about, she likes money like the rest of the Disney execs. I don't like her vision for a lot of what DSW shat out, but we did get some gems like Rogue One, Mandalorian and Andor.