Tombstone vs Bane

Started by abhilegend3 pages

Originally posted by Smurph
A handbook excerpt that directly contradicts on panel events is toilet paper. 👆

Daredevil must be stronger than Spider-Man for beating the shit out of Fisk.

Fisk was just out of the hospital after a near fatal stabbing. Also wasn't he run down with a car?

Originally posted by Juntai
I don’t think a random thought bubble from a single silver age or golden age comic that is in direct contradiction to his entire history is proof that unhinges on panel and ohotmu. He’s just a giant strong man and effective fighter that allows him to use all his speed, power and leverage. The bulk of his wild feats were silver age though, prior to OHOTMU giving writers a baseline.

He’s meant to be “peak human” for a guy that’s the size of Halfthor Bjornson.

Meanwhile Bane is decidedly not human power. He can jump to the top of a lighthouse from the ground, can run as fast as a car on the highway and lift 15 tons.

Your first mistake is thinking that there's any differentiation between silver age and current Fisk. He continues to accrue superhuman feats. Just flip back a page in this thread and look at him chokeslamming Tombstone. "OHOTMU" is simply wrong - in fact, his most superhuman feats have been since OHOTMU.

Bane has some nice feats, yes. He's no Kingpin, but he's still cool.

Originally posted by Smurph
Your first mistake is thinking that there's any differentiation between silver age and current Fisk. He continues to accrue superhuman feats. Just flip back a page in this thread and look at him chokeslamming Tombstone. "OHOTMU" is simply wrong - in fact, his most superhuman feats have been since OHOTMU.

Bane has some nice feats, yes. He's no Kingpin, but he's still cool.

Bane merced KILLER CROC! 😎

Originally posted by abhilegend
Daredevil must be stronger than Spider-Man for beating the shit out of Fisk.
I guess so, seeing how Daredevil also punked Rhino mmm but then, DD has a ton of feats punching above his weight class.

Meanwhile, Catwoman ko'd Bane with a taser. Everybody has low showings.

Originally posted by Smurph
I guess so, seeing how Daredevil also punked Rhino mmm but then, DD has a ton of feats punching above his weight class.

Meanwhile, Catwoman ko'd Bane with a taser. Everybody has low showings.


Daredevil punked a jobber like Rhino, oh no!!!!!

So, what is it, Daredevil beating Fisk is a low showing now?

Originally posted by Smurph
Your first mistake is thinking that there's any differentiation between silver age and current Fisk. He continues to accrue superhuman feats. Just flip back a page in this thread and look at him chokeslamming Tombstone. "OHOTMU" is simply wrong - in fact, his most superhuman feats have been since OHOTMU.

Bane has some nice feats, yes. He's no Kingpin, but he's still cool.


Batman on venom drawing blood from Superman pretty much trumps any feat Kingpin or Daredevil have and Bane on venom would be at least as strong as Batman on venom.

Kingpin is cool, he's no Bane. Two can play this game.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Daredevil punked a jobber like Rhino, oh no!!!!!

So, what is it, Daredevil beating Fisk is a low showing now?

Yeah, Rhino.

Uh, it's a good feat for Daredevil. It's not a feat for Fisk?? You want to use Fisks's losses to make him look weaker, but everybody has losses.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Batman on venom drawing blood from Superman pretty much trumps any feat Kingpin or Daredevil have and Bane on venom would be at least as strong as Batman on venom.

Kingpin is cool, he's no Bane. Two can play this game.

Highlighted the important part for you 👆

Feats don't transfer.

Originally posted by Smurph
He continues to accrue superhuman feats. Just flip back a page in this thread and look at him chokeslamming Tombstone. "OHOTMU" is simply wrong - in fact, his most superhuman feats have been since OHOTMU.

Bane has some nice feats, yes. He's no Kingpin, but he's still cool.

Tombstone isn’t as strong as Bane either, so it’s neither here or there.

He's certainly more durable than Bane.

Originally posted by Smurph
Yeah, Rhino.

Uh, it's a good feat for Daredevil. It's not a feat for Fisk?? You want to use Fisks's losses to make him look weaker, but everybody has losses.


You're talking like Rhino hasn't been punked by pretty much everyone.

No, you insisted losing to Daredevil is a low showing.

Originally posted by Smurph
Highlighted the important part for you 👆

Feats don't transfer.


Feats don't transfer but the implications are still there. Drawing blood from Superman trumps punking Rhino.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You're talking like Rhino hasn't been punked by pretty much everyone.

No, you insisted losing to Daredevil is a low showing.

Feats are feats.

I didn't "insist" on anything. You mentioned Daredevil as if it implies anything. I shrugged and said everybody has low showings. Losses are low showings. It doesn't matter to me how you categorize it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Feats don't transfer but the implications are still there. Drawing blood from Superman trumps punking Rhino.
lol, no. There is no implication that Bane could draw blood from Superman. Feel free to argue otherwise.

Let's not forget how Killer Croc (a.k.a. Jobber Supreme) raped Bane.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Let's not forget how Killer Croc (a.k.a. Jobber Supreme) raped Bane.

Jobber yeah but Knightfall was peak Croc, Azbats couldn't even really hurt him by repeatedly clubbing him in the head.

Originally posted by Smurph
Feats are feats.

I didn't "insist" on anything. You mentioned Daredevil as if it implies anything. I shrugged and said everybody has low showings. Losses are low showings. It doesn't matter to me how you categorize it.

lol, no. There is no implication that Bane could draw blood from Superman. Feel free to argue otherwise.

Tombstone has a lot of low showings though. He hasn't really been formidable since his early days as a Spidey rogue.

I mean Luke Cage kicked his ass how many times in that stupid early 90's comic where he wore skinny jeans? Plus Matt and the sledgehammer, plus the Fisk I just showed you, plus that time Shang Chi took him (I don't really remember that he did but I bet it happened)

Bane jobs to Azbats and he gets taken down with a super convoluted setup where he's tackled off a cliff, or loses his footing on a train and eats a kick, Lonny simply gets taken down.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Let's not forget how Killer Croc (a.k.a. Jobber Supreme) raped Bane.

Quoted for lies.

Get it? Most people say quoted for truth but this is a lie so I'm saying quoted for lies.

Originally posted by Smurph
Feats are feats.

I didn't "insist" on anything. You mentioned Daredevil as if it implies anything. I shrugged and said everybody has low showings. Losses are low showings. It doesn't matter to me how you categorize it.

Verbal chicanery at its best. Kudos.

lol, no. There is no implication that Bane could draw blood from Superman. Feel free to argue otherwise.

😂

Sure thing bro.

Bane

wow this turned into a trainwreck but glad to see it ended with a discussion about superman. and here i was worried things around here may have changed. 😂