Originally posted by carver9
More proof. Immortal Hulk jumps into a fight and is getting his ass whipped. He turns into Savage Hulk who didn't even know why he was there so that he could win...
How does that prove anything? Devil explicitly said that the Savage personality is stronger than him during the day after this. You seem to (purposefully) forget that Devil is weaker during the day.
Originally posted by carver9
Like I said, it was said on panel that Savage Hulk is stronger. Immortal Hulk is more strategic...
That's Fortean's opinion, not a fact.
Also, don't think I didn't notice that you failed to respond to ALL of my arguments, carver.
Originally posted by Psychotron
How does that prove anything? Devil explicitly said that the Savage personality is stronger than him during the day after this. You seem to (purposefully) forget that Devil is weaker during the day.That's Fortean's opinion, not a fact.
Also, don't think I didn't notice that you failed to respond to ALL of my arguments, carver.
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It's literally said on panel. Said by a guy who fought and beat Immortal Hulk. Then you're trying to twist it by naming the character when the writer literally wrote those words in his book.
Also, Immortal Hulk changing to savage during times he couldn't defeat something is obvious proof. Especially considering Savage being literally mentioned on panel as being stronger.
Originally posted by carver9
🤣🤣🤣🤣It's literally said on panel. Said by a guy who fought and beat Immortal Hulk. Then you're trying to twist it by naming the character when the writer literally wrote those words in his book.
Also, Immortal Hulk changing to savage during times he couldn't defeat something is obvious proof. Especially considering Savage being literally mentioned on panel as being stronger.
Hahaha what? Fortean never beat Hulk. That was was Rick Jones as Abomination and Savage was the one who ultimately got killed there. So even though you think Savage is stronger, he failed to defeat Jones when he took control, and Devil had to come back to fight him with Red Harpy. Then Fortean put on the Abominaton "suit" and was also defeated by Devil Hulk before Joe Fixit killed him for good in hell. Try reading the story next time.
See, this is why your shitty English is a problem. You can't grasp basic stuff. Devil Hulk was talking about Savage's ability to take control of their body during the day WHEN DEVIL HULK IS WEAKER. Also, you'll notice that Savage didn't take control when Fortean melted Hulk's face in their final encounter, so there goes that theory of yours.
And why are we even talking about this? This has nothing to do with Savage Hulk's failure to restore his strength when he got gamma drained.
👆 imagine if others used the same arguments as Carver.
Darksaint: Batman has true dynamic strength. He can ramp from fighting Two-face, to fighting JLA level threats.
Carver: Oh yeah? Why didn't he do it in XYZ?
Darksaint: Don't know, ask the writer. Anyway here is a tangent on how Hulk's ears are pointier than Batman's.....
Originally posted by Psychotron
Hahaha what? Fortean never beat Hulk. That was was Rick Jones as Abomination and Savage was the one who ultimately got killed there. So even though you think Savage is stronger, he failed to defeat Jones when he took control, and Devil had to come back to fight him with Red Harpy. Then Fortean put on the Abominaton "suit" and was also defeated by Devil Hulk before Joe Fixit killed him for good in hell. Try reading the story next time.See, this is why your shitty English is a problem. You can't grasp basic stuff. Devil Hulk was talking about Savage's ability to take control of their body during the day WHEN DEVIL HULK IS WEAKER. Also, you'll notice that Savage didn't take control when Fortean melted Hulk's face in their final encounter, so there goes that theory of yours.
And why are we even talking about this? This has nothing to do with Savage Hulk's failure to restore his strength when he got gamma drained.
So you asked for evidence and when it's posted you don't like it. Anyways, yes, Savage Hulk is stronger than Immortal Hulk, as said by someone that was studying Hulk most of the time in Immortal Hulk. You can cry about it, but it's there.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆 imagine if others used the same arguments as Carver.Darksaint: Batman has true dynamic strength. He can ramp from fighting Two-face, to fighting JLA level threats.
Carver: Oh yeah? Why didn't he do it in XYZ?
Darksaint: Don't know, ask the writer. Anyway here is a tangent on how Hulk's ears are pointier than Batman's.....
So Superman heat vision isn't as hot as a star since he's never said it? Gotcha. Let's throw that benching earth weights in there as well.
Originally posted by carver9
So you asked for evidence and when it's posted you don't like it. Anyways, yes, Savage Hulk is stronger than Immortal Hulk, as said by someone that was studying Hulk most of the time in Immortal Hulk. You can cry about it, but it's there.
Your evidence is a joke, just like your knowledge of the character. You've clearly never read Immortal Hulk. You just looked at scans in ownage threads.
PS Savage Hulk IS Immortal Hulk, just as Devil and Joe were.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Your evidence is a joke, just like your knowledge of the character. You've clearly never read Immortal Hulk. You just looked at scans in ownage threads.PS Savage Hulk IS Immortal Hulk, just as Devil and Joe were.
And yet, from a guy that was studying Hulk the entire time. Savage Hulk is more powerful. Keep crying. The evidence was shown. I don't know who you were expecting to say Savage Hulk is stronger? Let me guess, Savage himself? The guy literally knew Hulks entire physique. To the point of creating an acid that could bypass Hulks durability and prevent him from healing. We are done discussing this. I literally don't debate with clowns who are in denial.
Originally posted by carver9
Just to nip this in the bud, clown, here's Immortal Hulk admitting Savage Hulk is stronger...
You are illiterate or lying on purpose. I addressed this like 3 times already. I refuse to believe you don't understand what "Before the sun sets, he's... stronger than me." Emphasis on "Before the sun sets". The implication here is that Devil is stronger than Savage AFTER the sun set. The night is his time, remember? Now here's the real kicker - Devil isn't talking about physical strength, he's talking about control of their body. That's why he says that it's a wrinkle. Because when Savage Hulk took over earlier, his stupidity played into Dario Agger's plans.
I don't even know why you're arguing about this. It's completely irrelevant to the topic because both Savage and Devil got gamma drained and they couldn't restore their strength without getting that gamma back and/or getting bombarded with cosmic rays.
Originally posted by carver9
And yet, from a guy that was studying Hulk the entire time. Savage Hulk is more powerful. Keep crying. The evidence was shown. I don't know who you were expecting to say Savage Hulk is stronger? Let me guess, Savage himself? The guy literally knew Hulks entire physique. To the point of creating an acid that could bypass Hulks durability and prevent him from healing. We are done discussing this. I literally don't debate with clowns who are in denial.
First of all, "The guy literally knew Hulks entire physique" sounds really gay. Maybe it sounds normal in whatever your first language is idk. Second, Fortean didn't know Hulk well at all. Hulk proved that in the very scan YOU posted by NOT reverting to Savage Hulk when he got his face melted and tricking Fortean, which led to Fortean's defeat.
You're not debating anything. You're running from every point I've made and every question I've asked.
Originally posted by carver9
He even admits Savage took over because he was hurt.
Why didn't Savage take over when Fortean melted his face, carver?
He took over the body during the night, not during day time. He did it again when he was heading to fight Xemnu and it was at night. So we have two occurrences of it saying Savage is stronger and you're not accepting any of it.
He literally created an acid that bypassed his durability and healing factor. 🤣🤣🤣 It can't get any clearer than that. He's not just some random person. He knew everything about Hulk, to the point that he created a weapon that killed Hulk. You're completely stupid if you don't think this guy knows everything about Hulk or not.
Your entire post is just a cry in denial.
Originally posted by carver9
I didn't say ask a writer anything. I literally said, the writer himself wrote those words, and he did. He wrote it for a person that knew Hulks entire physique.
This you?
Originally posted by carver9
He probably could have, he just didn't choose to do it. Ask the writer about it. He transformed back to full power once he absorbed gamma energy. Are you denying him being able to turn into multiple Hulks?
Are you an idiot, or a liar?
Originally posted by carver9
HHe literally created an acid that bypassed his durability and healing factor. 🤣🤣🤣 It can't get any clearer than that. He's not just some random person. He knew everything about Hulk, to the point that he created a weapon that killed Hulk. You're completely stupid if you don't think this guy knows everything about Hulk or not.
Then why did he lose, carver? How did Devil Hulk deceive him? Why didn't Devil transform into Savage like Fortean predicted?
Originally posted by carver9
He took over the body during the night, not during day time. He did it again when he was heading to fight Xemnu and it was at night. So we have two occurrences of it saying Savage is stronger and you're not accepting any of it.
Lies again. It was still day when Hulk and the others confronted Dario's monsters. Hulk explicitly mentioned that it was still daytime and that it would throw him off. Savage Hulk was the one who confronted Xemnu because Joe and Devil were locked up in Banner's mind by Xemnu and the Leader posing as WWH. You really should read Immortal Hulk some time. It's pretty good.
Originally posted by Psychotron
And carver still hasn't explained why it matters who's stronger between Devil and Savage when both got permanently gamma drained until they recovered the gamma or got hit by cosmic rays.
This. How can he have true dynamic strength yet get drained and depowered until an external amp hit them....