Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No I meant that I am operating from an initial position that throughout his entire history, Hercules has lost a 1v1 (assumption; I could be wrong).Your post implied that apart from the Hulk, he has never lost to someone stronger.
Which implies in turn, that the losses he has suffered are all....to weaker opposition.
Or he's never lost a 1v1, idk
Originally posted by abhilegend
Dude was beaten up by random kree sentries, Sersi pretty much oneshotted him. He couldn't even beat Iron man despite being angry and both were koed by Avengers mansions electricity.How about you show us him beating pretty much anyone worth shit by his so called mythical skills?
lol way to move goalposts. ko'd by electricty? 😂 the hell does that have to do with his skill?
and if you read carefully you'll see i never mentioned his skill level. his best displayed skills came when he was powerless or mortal and NEEDED to use them. generally immortal herc doesn't bother much. his mortal battle his hulk was one of my faves.
the sentries--you mean the ones who had the universal weapon and were still barely able to ko him after standing in disbelief at how much he was able to withstand? obviously he's not cap. he's a classic wrestler when he wants to be. he's never really beaten anyone through displays of skill but that doesn't preclude him being skilled 😂
my initial question goes unanswered.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No I meant that I am operating from an initial position that throughout his entire history, Hercules has lost a 1v1 (assumption; I could be wrong).Your post implied that apart from the Hulk, he has never lost to someone stronger.
Which implies in turn, that the losses he has suffered are all....to weaker opposition.
Or he's never lost a 1v1, idk
he has lost but i honestly can't recall who. thor for sure. but pure brick in a slugfest? it's exceedingly rare.
and zop--outside that wwh scene hulk has never scored a straight up ko win over herc. the levels he's at are all over and the more recent version would beat herc i'd assume though.
Originally posted by leonidas
lol way to move goalposts. ko'd by electricty? 😂 the hell does that have to do with his skill?and if you read carefully you'll see i never mentioned his skill level. his best displayed skills came when he was powerless or mortal and NEEDED to use them. generally immortal herc doesn't bother much. his mortal battle his hulk was one of my faves.
the sentries--you mean the ones who had the universal weapon and were still barely able to ko him after standing in disbelief at how much he was able to withstand? obviously he's not cap. he's a classic wrestler when he wants to be. he's never really beaten anyone through displays of skill but that doesn't preclude him being skilled 😂
my initial question goes unanswered.
As usual you skipped right ahead of the Sersi beat down but sure lol
Originally posted by leonidas
he has lost but i honestly can't recall who. thor for sure. but pure brick in a slugfest? it's exceedingly rare.and zop--outside that wwh scene hulk has never scored a straight up ko win over herc. the levels he's at are all over and the more recent version would beat herc i'd assume though.
you really are something 😂 i didn't forget about it, i assumed it wasn't worth discussing.
she flew him up (he can't fly you know that right...?) and slammed him down. he wasn't ko'd. he was awake under water. that was insane sersi who was insanely powerful in that arc AND herc didn't really wanna fight her.
oh and sersi would beat herc 10/10 but she would never fight him for long in straight h2h. so...yeah? 😕 not sure how he's supposed to 'outskill' her when she's flying and using matter manip against the entire avengers team. 😂 keep demonstrating how ineffective he is in 1v1 situations against people physically stronger than he is though. 👆
Originally posted by leonidas
you really are something 😂 i didn't forget about it, i assumed it wasn't worth discussing.she flew him up (he can't fly you know that right...?) and slammed him down. he wasn't ko'd.
he was awake under water. that was insane sersi who was insanely powerful in that arc AND herc didn't really wanna fight her.
He was about to die in the water until Thena saved him. There's no indication Sersi was stronger than usual in that arc.
oh and sersi would beat herc 10/10 but she would never fight him for long in straight h2h. so...yeah? 😕 not sure how he's supposed to 'outskill' her when she's flying and using matter manip against the entire avengers team. 😂 keep demonstrating how ineffective he is in 1v1 situations against people physically stronger than he is though. 👆
She just punched him and threw him down lol. So much mental gymnastics.
Originally posted by leonidas
he wasn't ko'd. he was awake under water.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
He went toe to toe with Pre Crisis Superman.
Originally posted by Diesldude
This man knows what he’s talking about. Name looked familiar.
Current He Man only has a few battles to his credit that show his strength. His recent run in with Lobo and Solomon Grundy gave a glimpse of what he could do albeit he fought shells of the originals. He Man is about as strong as any top tier herald. He fell short of defeating Darkseid which would be seen as an avatar ranging anywhere from high Herald to high Trans.
Hercules has more skill than Prince Adam no matter which way you want to look at it. We can't fairly go by his worst showings in order to give his competition a skewed advantage. His best combat showings are of him against Thor. Hercules won his last sparring session with Thor.
Prince Adam isn't as skillful.