Conceivable ways to beat (or kill) Doomsday, permanently?

Started by carver94 pages

Is Doomsday resisting? That changes things

I assume it was the version in OP I.e. all surrounded by lava etc.

Nothing mentions him resisting, though. It's just asking if he could be killed.

Originally posted by carver9
Nothing mentions him resisting, though. It's just asking if he could be killed.

This thread isn't about whether Doomsday can be killed (he clearly can), but whether he can be killed permanently (i.e., remain dead for eternity). I don't think Doomsday's lack of resistance to being killed is relevant here.

Well he looks pretty angry and spoiling for a fight is what I'm saying. Like he's not just lying there passively waiting for someone to phuck him up.

What if instead of power absorption we try power bestowal.

Maybe somebody like Zatanna could transfer Forget-Me-Not's powers into Doomsday. And then kill him.

I was going to increase Matter Eater Lad to giant proportions then eat Doomsday, but that also works 👆

Originally posted by h1a8
This thread isn't about whether Doomsday can be killed (he clearly can), but whether he can be killed permanently (i.e., remain dead for eternity). I don't think Doomsday's lack of resistance to being killed is relevant here.

My question had nothing to do with what you're saying.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well he looks pretty angry and spoiling for a fight is what I'm saying. Like he's not just lying there passively waiting for someone to phuck him up.

This is the answer I was looking for H1.

Galan, do you think Doomsday can survive Beerus existence erasure?

Originally posted by Smurph
What if instead of power absorption we try power bestowal.

Maybe somebody like Zatanna could transfer Forget-Me-Not's powers into Doomsday. And then kill him.

I'm unfamiliar with FMN, but if his powerset were transferred into DD, would everyone who has ever seen/heard about him completely forget that he ever existed(even those in other timelines/dimensions)?

If so, that seems like a good route to go.

Originally posted by carver9
Galan, do you think Doomsday can survive Beerus existence erasure?
No, his body would likely be nullified(ala Zamasu.)

...But that still wouldn't be a permanent defeat in DD's case.

So with FMN, he doesn't really go into the field (being forgotten). So the actual opportunities for him to meet people in other dimensions/timelines is nonexistent. That said, his power is to be forgotten, so I'd assume (with no proof) that it works everywhere, just like Logan is stabby everywhere.

Sounds like a mutant circuit is needed with FMN somehow involved without everyone forgetting he's part of the team.

Nullification, Pym Particles, WB Hulk putting those knuckles on him, Superman going solar dipping and going all out on him.

Originally posted by Stoic
Nullification, Pym Particles, WB Hulk putting those knuckles on him, Superman going solar dipping and going all out on him.

I'm sure those things will kill DD, but that's not the point of the thread. It's killing him and preventing him from 'respawning'.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm unfamiliar with FMN, but if his powerset were transferred into DD, would everyone who has ever seen/heard about him completely forget that he ever existed(even those in other timelines/dimensions)?

If so, that seems like a good route to go.

Like DS said: https://imgur.com/jHoy2KZ

His power is that he simply "slides" out of memories. And it's automatic, doesn't matter if it's an uber psychic etc.

It would make Doomsday incredibly deadly while he was alive. But I think it would guarantee that once he's gone, he's forgotten.

Maybe I'm wrong and he IS a field team member,, EVERYONE does indeed forget him.....

I know most (but not all) tech also has an issue registering FMN... But if that powerset were transferred into Doomsday, what would happen to all of the preexisting records of him?

-Video footage of his rampages
-Newspaper reports/pictures
-Generic internet articles
-The files from STAR Labs
-The Book of Oa
-Henshaw's databanks
-Motherboxes
-The LoSH archives
-etc.

Would all of that information just go away as well, or could someone(with no memory of DD) conceivably stumble upon those records, and poof, they re-remember Doomsday and become a possible host?

Tbh, I didn't even think about that sort of thing until now. Since he can regenerate from memory, even multiversal mind-wipes might not be enough to end DD permanently. You'd [literally] have to erase him from the history books as well.

Also I'm not sure how someone then kills a Doomsday who is now rampaging without anyone knowing they're even in a fight.

Using Smurph's tactic: Maybe the best thing to do would be to physically 'kill' DD first, then have Zatanna transfer FMN's powerset into DD's corpse the instant before they completely erase him(via entropy-dump or w/e)..? Otherwise, yeah, it just makes initially 'killing' him that much harder.

And even if that worked successfully, you still have to think about the preexisting records of Doomsday's existence that I mentioned above. What happens to all of that info? Memory-regen is ridiculously hard to get around.

Ya it's a good point.

You could make a good story out of Planetary travelling from universe to universe using Drummer to systematically eliminate traces of Doomsday.

You'd have to expand on Drum's powers a bit tho.