Predator vs T-800

Originally posted by h1a8
It seems you're not familiar with what a combistick is. Before we get into that, how many times stronger do you think a Terminator is compared to a Predator, based on feats?
2x, 3x, 4x,...?

I know what it is, Mr ChatGPT.

Based on all movies or just limited to T1?

Originally posted by Psychotron
I know what it is, Mr ChatGPT.

Based on all movies or just limited to T1?

There hasn't been any math presented in this thread. But if there is, I'm more than capable of handling it myself.

This is based solely on *T1* feats.

Originally posted by h1a8
Do you? Then you understand it's far more durable than a random pole with significantly less surface area, right? Therefore, it would require only a fraction of the Terminator's strength to push it through the T-800.

There hasn't been any math presented in this thread. But if there is, I'm more than capable of handling it myself.

This is based solely on *T1* feats.

Durability feats for the combistick?

Based soley on T1 feats, the T-800 punches through the Predator's chest and rips out his heart if the Predator is dumb enough to get within melee range.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't see any scenario, outside of a hand-to-hand fight, where the T-800 comes out on top. The plasma caster would dominate every time.

Additionally, the T-800 has been impaled by a steel pole before, and the combistick is significantly more durable and sharper, making it an even greater threat.

Wasn't that in T2, and thus, inadmissible in this thread? Or am I misremembering?

Yes, it's also a feat that was performed by a character that's physically stronger than a Predator, but h1 won't let that stop him.

Predators are many more times more durable than humans, as seen in P2 when the Predator took multiple shotgun blasts at close range and survived. Seemed like surface wounds for the most part.

So claiming the T-800 can physically do the same to a Predator what it did to a human is retarded.

Anyhow, fight wouldn't likely get close, Predators have no problem with longer range kills, it's far faster, far more agile and that caster will down a T-800. Shiny metal skull for the collection.

Originally posted by Robtard
Predators are many more times more durable than humans, as seen in P2 when the Predator took multiple shotgun blasts at close range and survived. Seemed like surface wounds for the most part.

So claiming the T-800 can physically do the same to a Predator what it did to a human is retarded.

Anyhow, fight wouldn't likely get close, Predators have no problem with longer range kills, it's far faster, far more agile and that caster will down a T-800. Shiny metal skull for the collection.

I already said that the Predator would win thanks to his plasma caster. However, it's disingenuous to say that the shotgun shots were mere flesh wounds. They put the City Hunter down for more than a 10 count. He was so injured that he tried to blow himself up. Also, a middle-aged cop held his own against him in a melee fight. A T-800 would easily beat a Predator in H2H.

The Predator literally went on and kept on fighting after it healed the severed arm wound with the goop.

And the T-800 was blow in half by a small homebrew pipe bomb and then defeated by a tiny scared waitress. So if you want to play the lowball game, we can. Or you can stop acting retarded.

Originally posted by Robtard
The Predator literally went on and kept on fighting after it healed the severed arm wound with the goop.

And the T-800 was blow in half by a small homebrew pipe bomb and then defeated by a tiny scared waitress. So if you want to play the lowball game, we can. Or you can stop acting retarded.

Wrong. The Predator didn't want to fight, he retreated back to his ship where Harrigan cornered and killed him.

Before that the T-800 had been hit and run over by a speeding semi-trailer truck, then he was in a massive explosion which destroyed that same truck. Both of those things would have one-shotted a Predator, which dies to things like falling logs and stab wounds. I mean a human beat healthy black Predator, which is canonically bigger and stronger than a cracker Predator, in a sword duel.

Um... they literally faced off in a final fight on the ship, it was a duel. If the Predator wanted to punk out and kill Harrigan with help, it could have. You're acting like the Predator was completely out of the fight after the shotgun blasts. It's retarded.

Okay? I didn't argue that the Predator is more durable than a T-800, so another retarded point. The point you dodged: The T-800 was killed by a tiny scared waitress, so if you want to lowball, I can too. Or you can stop acting retarded and debate in good faith. I think you'll keep being retarded though.

Originally posted by Robtard
Um... they literally faced off in a final fight on the ship, it was a duel. If the Predator wanted to punk out and kill Harrigan with help, it could have. You're acting like the Predator was completely out of the fight after the shotgun blasts. It's retarded.

Okay? I didn't argue that the Predator is more durable than a T-800, so another retarded point. The point you dodged: The T-800 was killed by a tiny scared waitress, so if you want to lowball, I can too. Or you can stop acting retarded and debate in good faith. I think you'll keep being retarded though.

Yeah, they faced off in a final duel on the ship because the Predator fled there after being wounded so badly that he attempted to kill himself. You keep ignoring this part, but it proves that the Predator thought he was defeated/too wounded to continue.

Then what are you arguing? I already said the Predator wins under these stipulations. I am only debating h1's retarded stance that a Predator can beat a Terminator in H2H.

Yeah I thought the whole reason it was missing an arm for example, was because it tried to kamikaze itself. Which in yautja culture is due to them losing the fight.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yeah, they faced off in a final duel on the ship because the Predator fled there after being wounded so badly that he attempted to kill himself. You keep ignoring this part, but it proves that the Predator thought he was defeated/too wounded to continue.

Then what are you arguing? I already said the Predator wins under these stipulations. I am only debating h1's retarded stance that a Predator can beat a Terminator in H2H.

Good lord. The Predator wasn't wounded to the point it was done fighting, as it literally kept going, so you're being retarded.

The attempted suicide was due to saying "f*ck you" to Harrigan when it was hanging off the side of the building, thinking the fall would kill it. But when Harrigan cut off its arm and stopped that, it did a quick patch job, did some roids and kept going with only one arm.

You're the one arguing retarded nonsense with me seemingly for the sake of arguing. Close quarter weapons only, T-800 would likely win. Probably 7 out of 10 fights in a round match.

The Terminator is physically stronger but the plasma bolts SHOULD be able to overwhelm the Terminator's durability. As long as the Predator keeps the distance and spam-blasts, it should win. IDK if it's net or bladed weapons will put down the Terminator. Outright CQB will definitely lead to the Terminator crushing it though. Predator 8/10

Originally posted by Robtard
Good lord. The Predator wasn't wounded to the point it was done fighting, as it literally kept going, so you're being retarded.

The attempted suicide was due to saying "f*ck you" to Harrigan when it was hanging off the side of the building, thinking the fall would kill it. But when Harrigan cut off its arm and stopped that, it did a quick patch job, did some roids and kept going with only one arm.

You're the one arguing retarded nonsense with me seemingly for the sake of arguing. Close quarter weapons only, T-800 would likely win. Probably 7 out of 10 fights in a round match.

Ah, okay. The Predator decided to kill himself instead of doing a pullup. These are the same creatures that have superhuman strength and run around on trees with zero issue. Gotcha. Very good faith debating, Robbie.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Durability feats for the combistick?

Based soley on T1 feats, the T-800 punches through the Predator's chest and rips out his heart if the Predator is dumb enough to get within melee range.

It doesn't need to be, as it's at least as durable as a pole and far sharper.
There's no evidence to suggest the T-800 has the strength to achieve that.
Moreover, it would never get the chance, as the Predator could take it out with plasma blasts or stab its power source with the combistick.

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Originally posted by h1a8
It doesn't need to be, as it's at least as durable as a pole and far sharper.
There's no evidence to suggest the T-800 has the strength to achieve that.
Moreover, it would never get the chance, as the Predator could take it out with plasma blasts or stab its power source with the combistick.

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So no feats? Gotcha.

Lol a Predator got killed by a log. The one in Predator 2 got pierced by bullets just like any human. One of the black Predators was killed by a human with a regular katana. The idea that a Terminator can't punch through its chest is absurd.

I thought we're only using feats from the first film.

No steel pole penetrated Arnie in that film, did it?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought we're only using feats from the first film.

No steel pole penetrated Arnie in that film, did it?

It's admissible if it's a bad feat, don't you know?

Originally posted by Psychotron
Ah, okay. The Predator decided to kill himself instead of doing a pullup.

These are the same creatures that have superhuman strength and run around on trees with zero issue. Gotcha. Very good faith debating, Robbie.

Characters do stupid shit in films all the time to further the plot. What is important though, is what we saw and what we saw was the Predator while hurt, was still alive and in the game after taking multiple nigh pointblank shotgun blasts. Claiming otherwise is the stuff of retards 👆

Characters also increase in power levels in subsequent films for the sake of a bigger and better spectacle. Pretending otherwise is the stuff of retards 👆