Originally posted by abhilegend
Life emerged from phoenix, most of the universe is inert matter which didn't emerge from it. Can you read or not, retard?
Except for the fact that its referring to the universal life cycle itself, a common Phoenix theme which this iterates on:
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
History of the Marvel Universe issue 1 is from 2019 and doesnt account for the consensus writers have reached regarding the Phoenix as ive shown through numerous scans stating creation/all that is derives from it power.My point stands 🙂
So History of Marvel universe is canon when it suits you and non canon when it does not?
As far as font of creation goes, it failed spectacularly in making Mother Righteous a dominion, wouldn't you say?
You dont get to write off explicit evidence because it suits you lol
You don't get to pick and choose from different stories what you want and discard what you don't.
Please show where the specifics and nature of the contest were defined? To conquer is successfully overcome an obstacle or problem. The use of that word doesnt give you anything conclusive to assert your takes a fact.
Yes, Panther overcame Tiger God, you said yourself. It wasn't a test.
Once again....you tried it
Lol, you're a glutton for punishment, aren't you?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Except for the fact that its referring to the universal life cycle itself, a common Phoenix theme which this iterates on:
Originally posted by abhilegend
Even your "creation starts here" scan is out of context as Mother Righteous fails to become a dominion even after sacrificing Phoenix Force.Enigma really was more powerful than Phoenix Force lol.
Mother Righteous was sufficiently empowered to become a Dominion and as she was ascending her power was immediately leeched by Enigma as she was already synced with him unbeknownst to her.
The fact that Enigma was then switched online illustrates WHR gave Mother R the power she asked for. 🙂
Originally posted by abhilegend
So History of Marvel universe is canon when it suits you and non canon when it does not?
History of the Marvel Universe documents a whole range of different stories and canonical elements. Some elements have since been effected by retcons due to stories post 2019 affecting them, whilst some elements which havent been touched on by subsequent stories would remain unaffected. Simple concept 🙂
Originally posted by abhilegend
As far as font of creation goes, it failed spectacularly in making Mother Righteous a dominion, wouldn't you say?You don't get to pick and choose from different stories what you want and discard what you don't.
Except for the fact that the WHR did sufficiently empower her to become a Dominion. Hence Enigma being able to turn online. The WHR did its job hence Enigma being able to take advantage of the influx of power unbeknownst to Mother R 🙂
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, Panther overcame Tiger God, you said yourself. It wasn't a test.Lol, you're a glutton for punishment, aren't you?
You dont have the evidence to punish me. Im too well supported in canon.
What you do is dismiss explicit evidence whilst turning to disingenuity when it comes to your own takes. 😉
Black Panther overcame Tiger God under unknown parameters. Hes a street leveller so we know it wasnt through outright power. As such your point is moot 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Mother Righteous was sufficiently empowered to become a Dominion and as she was ascending her power was immediately leeched by Enigma as she was already synced with him unbeknownst to her.The fact that Enigma was then switched online illustrates WHR gave Mother R the power she asked for. 🙂
I was talking more about the fact that the phoenix force failed to provide the happily ever after to Mother Righteous even after she wrote it. That means Phoenix Force can't be the true font of creation.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
History of the Marvel Universe documents a whole range of different stories and canonical elements. Some elements have since been effected by retcons due to stories post 2019 affecting them, whilst some elements which havent been touched on by subsequent stories would remain unaffected. Simple concept 🙂
No such retcons happened to make phoenix force big bang.
Except for the fact that the WHR did sufficiently empower her to become a Dominion. Hence Enigma being able to turn online. The WHR did its job hence Enigma being able to take advantage of the influx of power unbeknownst to Mother R 🙂
Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]Dominions can be killed by stars going supernova. Phoenix Force's sacrifice created star level beingsI was talking more about the fact that the phoenix force failed to provide the happily ever after to Mother Righteous even after she wrote it. That means Phoenix Force can't be the true font of creation.
You dont have the evidence to punish me. Im too well supported in canon.What you do is dismiss explicit evidence whilst turning to disingenuity when it comes to your own takes. 😉
Lol, lmao even.
Black Panther overcame Tiger God under unknown parameters. Hes a street leveller so we know it wasnt through outright power. As such your point is moot 🙂 [/B]
No such thing is established, your petulance isn't a proof.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Dominions can be killed by stars going supernova. Phoenix Force's sacrifice created star level beings
You cant assert a power level based on what somethings vulnerable to. A squishable spider can kill a 6ft man. A man with a pistol could kill Storm. A piece of green rock can disable a planet busting Superman. Can i have some logic and common sense from you in this discussion please?
Originally posted by abhilegend
I was talking more about the fact that the phoenix force failed to provide the happily ever after to Mother Righteous even after she wrote it. That means Phoenix Force can't be the true font of creation.
It provided Mother Righteous the power to make that reality come true. The power was intercepted. Lets have some integrity and not be childish lol
Originally posted by abhilegend
No such retcons happened to make phoenix force big bang.
Its stated explicitly to be the power that all that is derives from. ✅
Originally posted by abhilegendNo such thing is established, your petulance isn't a proof.
BP conquering Tiger God off panel under unknown conditions doesnt give you the conclusive evidence you need to assert as fact that it was a matchup of sheer power. Game over 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You cant assert a power level based on what somethings vulnerable to. A squishable spider can kill a 6ft man. A man with a pistol could kill Storm. A piece of green rock can disable a planet busting Superman. Can i have some logic and common sense from you in this discussion please?
Is Dominion suddenly weak to suns now? How about fearing Galactus?
It provided Mother Righteous the power to make that reality come true. The power was intercepted. Lets have some integrity and not be childish lol
So, it's not font of creation but just a power source sufficient to create star level beings? Beings who fear Galactus? Sounds weak to me lol.
Originally posted by GalacticStormIt isn't.
Its stated explicitly to be the power that all that is derives from. ✅
BP conquering Tiger God off panel under unknown conditions doesnt give you the conclusive evidence you need to assert as fact that it was a matchup of sheer power. Game over 🙂
Again, your petulance isn't proof, retard.
Originally posted by GalacticStormNot even remotely close to The Source.
What are All in Darkseids feats that places him above Marvels equivalent of the Source?
The Source created the Hands, one of which is Perpetua, who created the Monitors, who created and govern the multiverses[Matter/Anti/Dark], as well as all things possible and all things impossible.
The Source also grants the power to the beings of the Godsphere outside of the multiverse. So the gods and cosmics all draw from it to varying degrees to fulfill their roles.
Where do you find the rational that Phoenix is not only in the ballpark of The Source, or even on the same planet, but in the same universe of importance or power?
Originally posted by Diesldude
what happened?
go read comic book discussion thread
https://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=658148&pagenumber=1900