Asgard vs Annihilation Wave

1st battle
Asgard got Odin, Thor, Loki, Hela, Fenris Wolf, Surtur all the artifacts and asgardians etc

Annihilation Wave got Annihilus, Thanos, Tenebrous & Aegis, centeurions, Ravenous, Fallen One

2nd battle
Asgard get to call upon the entire 9 realms for help and bring in the armies from war of the realms

annihilus get additional help from all his bugs army and Galactus and his heralds

1st battle is basically Odin and Surtur vs Tenebrous and Aegis. It could go either way depending on how powerful T and A really are (they have so few showings). Asgardian artifacts tip the scale in their favor.

2nd battle is a stomp in Asgard's favor.

I am several beers in but having Tenebrous & Aegis on Team 2 seems lopsided.

Like I totally get that Odin & Asgard fended off Galactus & Silver Surfer during Fraction's Worldseed arc but Tenebrous & Aegis stomped the Galactus & Silver Surfer duo during Annihilation. So the 1st battle seems to be decisively in favor of the stipulated Annihilation Wave's team 1. Am I missing something?

And so long as the 2nd battle's inclusion of "the entire 9 realms for help and bring in the armies from war of the realms" doesn't involve all of Midgard's heroes... then I'd still give the the stipulated Annihilation Wave a majority?

@ODG
Surtur is there on Team Asgard too (plus Asgard gets their artifacts : Casket of Ancient Winters, Surtur's Sword, the Destroyer armor, etc...)

^ Well the Destroyer Armor was already involved in the Worldseed arc but you're correct that Surtur would get Twilight Sword in either scenario, right? And Surtur w/ Twilight Sword is on par with Odin, after all.

I'm too many beers in to parse such considerations and make new conclusions. But I appreciate that you called me out on same.

I will re-evaluate.

Asgardians would also have Jarnbjorn, which is perfectly capable of cleaving up Tenebrous and Aegis by itself.

^ Jarnbjorn is certainly a plot-device weapon that threatens any Celestial and any Celestial-related character, such as Apocalypse. But I am unaware of Jarnbjorn being similarly effective against Abstracts like Galactus, Aegis or Tenebrous?

Isn't that what he used to chop through the Beyonders alongside Hyperion, or am I not remembering right? 😕

^ Unworthy Thor used the alternate universe Thorr's Mjolnir to fight the Beyonders for the entirety of his struggle up until he ultimately couldn't lift it anymore. Apparently because he was no longer unworthy.

IIRC, only then did he resort to wielding Jarnbjorn in the very last panels. If you interpret those final panels as him "chop[ping] through the Beyonders", to each their own.

Originally posted by ODG
If you interpret those final panels as him "chop[ping] through the Beyonders", to each their own.

but yes i agree that if the axe can slice through celestials and beyonders, it can slice through these bargain bin galactuses.👆

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
that's..... exactly what it did though?

No reasonable poster thinks Hyperion and Thor chopped/wrecked/destroyed Beyonders at their end.

In fact, the only posters who might peddle such a notion are those morons who are butthurt and want to denigrate the Beyonders' power-level by insisting Hyperion and Thor did so.

Which begs the question...

pointing out facts does not make me butthurt lol.

and it is a fact that thor used the axe to slice through those beyonders. did it like permanently kill them or anything? probably not, but it still damaged them physically. we also know it can slice through celestials.

basically the axe is just a giant plot device like you said, and was made specifically to cut through cosmic beings. no reason at all to think it couldn't also slice through t&a.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
pointing out facts does not make me butthurt lol.

and it is a fact that thor used the axe to slice through those beyonders.

First: post the panels where Thor "slice[d] through those [B]eyonders".

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
pointing out facts does not make me butthurt lol.

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odg is not capable of having normal conversations

Originally posted by MrMind
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odg is not capable of having normal conversations

But seriously, wasn't Mjolnir considered superior to Jarnbjorn but Thor only used Jarnbjorn because he became unworthy? Wasn't Mjolnir > Jarnbjorn? I honestly don't remember.

Jarnbjorn would get utterly crushed by Mjolnir in a feat war.

Also, I recall Power Man (not Luke) getting hit by Jarnbjorn.

strangest weapon ever. utter plot device. i wouldn't at all be surprised if it were able to cleave those 2. i also recall surfer ultimately doing pretty well solo against them? i feel like they were the classic 'villain makes a big splash' types who reverted to less than later. at least that's my (faulty?) memory of them. /shrug

Surfer did, but via surfing on the crunch energies or w/e

So just as much through a plot device weapon

Surfer was literally swatted aside like a fly and was dying when he went against **** and Asses.

Originally posted by ODG
Let's deconstruct your butthurt step by step then.

First: post the panels where Thor "slice[d] through those [B]eyonders".

but even if you don't want to count that, the axe can still slice through celestials. burden is on you to prove it -can't- cut galactus tier beings for some reason.