Namor. Try blocking a wave of water or a boulder larger than a building. Any Kryptonian that could lose to Val are simply too 2 dimensional to realize that they would never need to get into with him. Freeze breath, earthquake attack, thunder claps, heat ray vision capable of heating the air around him to the point that it kills him in moments, etc. Stupid writing. Another reason why plot isn’t the only and best way of telling who wins, especially in a forum battle that doesn’t provide plot armor to the combatants.
Val can probably knock Namor out in a straight fight in a featureless environment. Namor lacks many advantages the Kryptonians have (and yeah, a Kryptonian loses only by bad writing, even without the long range attacks).
In some sort of regular environment Namor can probably start throwing stuff at him or using water if that is available. Val is good but there is only so much you can dodge without PIS/CIS.
If it is in the ocean then Namor straight up kills him.
You also keep proving my point. Plot armor. In a real fight or forum match Steve would be wrecked by just a flick of Namors finger, who once again if you didn’t understand can pick up huge objects and crush Val with or kill him with a thunder clap, or simply drown him as he gas become a hydro kinetic. Imagine me saying that Mantis would dismantle Aquaman who is actually weaker than Namor?
Originally posted by StoicI'm....not the one who brought up low showings first, am I? That's right, you're the one who did. I am merely showing you the error of your ways.
Did it KO him? Do all characters have low showings? I thought that we use high feats? Cap also hits harder than a bat. Val has normal human durability.
If you are allowed to use low showings, surely I can too? Oh wait, you get all hissy about it, lol.