Kinda funny how Thanos or Doom can do it, but not these guys, Stoic.
With one-sided prep, they can steal the IG circa 1991, for example, at which point in time people like Franklin weren't powerhouses, Maker et al weren't around etc, and then stomp all over the cosmics like the LT etc. No Ironhhear, no SWORD, no Eternity Avatar Storm, no GR Robbie etc. No Ivory Kings. Go back even earlier, and they won't even have a Phoenix Force.
That's just off the top of my head, with like 2 minutes thinking.
Lmao:
Here's a **detailed scenario** in which your team—**The Batman Who Laughs, John Constantine, Lex Luthor, Ozymandias, Brainiac, Epoch, and Leviathan**—*actually wins* and takes over the **Marvel Universe**. To make this work believably, we assume:
* They have **extensive prep time** (months or even years).
* They're **cooperating effectively** (hard with egos like TBWL and Lex, but say Constantine binds them magically).
* They prioritize **stealth, manipulation, and divide-and-conquer**, not frontal attacks.
---
## 🧠 PHASE 1: INTEL AND INFILTRATION
### 🕒 Epoch scans the timeline
* Epoch explores alternate futures and catalogs **when** Marvel’s major players are weakest (e.g., after Infinity War, Civil War II, etc.).
* He picks a *precise point in time* where Earth's heroes are fractured and cosmic entities are passive or recovering.
### 🕷️ Brainiac + Leviathan infiltrate Earth
* Brainiac hacks and takes control of **SHIELD**, **SWORD**, **StarkTech**, and **Krakoan** networks quietly.
* Leviathan builds a **new Hydra-style shadow empire**, creating distrust between superpowers (U.S., Wakanda, Krakoa, Latveria, etc.).
### 🎭 Ozymandias manipulates perception
* Orchestrates a **massive false-flag event** (like in *Watchmen*) that causes global panic—a Celestial "return" or fake Kree-Skrull hybrid threat.
* Forces the Avengers, X-Men, and Eternals into global lockdown and internal paranoia.
---
## 🔮 PHASE 2: NEUTRALIZE EARTH’S CHAMPIONS
### 🦇 The Batman Who Laughs starts eliminating key players
* Uses **jokerized versions** of alternate Marvel heroes (Multiversal variants corrupted and brainwashed).
* Infects Tony Stark and Reed Richards with **Dark Multiverse tech-viruses**, turning them into paranoid isolationists.
### 🔥 Constantine deals with mystics
* Uses his vast magical network to trap or banish **Doctor Strange**, **Scarlet Witch**, and **Magik** in pocket dimensions.
* Leverages Marvel’s **rules-based magic system** (like the Vishanti and chaos magic) to create paradox loops they can’t easily escape.
### 🧠 Lex Luthor discredits key figures
* Exposes mutants' secrets to the world, inciting **global anti-mutant hysteria** again.
* Causes a rift in the Avengers by leaking false data about secret Illuminati decisions (like them destroying other worlds in *Incursions*).
---
## 🌌 PHASE 3: DEAL WITH COSMIC THREATS
### 🛸 Brainiac uses “bottled” universes
* He lures **Galactus**, **Silver Surfer**, and the **Celestials** into a trap by baiting them with artificially created life-rich worlds.
* Then **miniaturizes and stores** them like he does with Kandor.
### 🧿 Epoch tricks the Living Tribunal
* Exploits **chronal loopholes** where the Tribunal is **asleep or inactive** (this has happened in Marvel canon).
* Uses the Time-Space Conglomerate’s tech to phase the team **outside the main multiversal timeline**, avoiding detection.
---
## 💀 PHASE 4: TAKE CONTROL OF REALITY
### 🧠 The Final Stroke
* Constantine manipulates **Mephisto** into granting them access to **hell-dimension power** in exchange for the souls of Marvel’s fallen heroes.
* TBWL and Lex use hijacked reality-warping tech from **Reed’s lab** and **Asgardian relics** to reshape Earth’s perception of them as saviors.
### 🧠 Brainiac installs himself as a living AI god
* Converts Earth’s internet, satellites, and communication into **one neural network**.
* Leviathan enforces a **new world order**, policing powered individuals and exterminating resistors.
---
## 🎯 AFTERMATH: VICTORY
* Earth becomes a **surveilled, ultra-ordered dystopia** where all powered beings are monitored, ranked, or purged.
* Cosmic threats are bottled, mystics are trapped, and even beings like Franklin Richards are locked in **temporal stasis**.
* The **One-Above-All** may notice, but your team has turned the **Marvel Universe into a closed system**, cutting it off from the greater multiverse.
---
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lmao:Here's a **detailed scenario** in which your team—**The Batman Who Laughs, John Constantine, Lex Luthor, Ozymandias, Brainiac, Epoch, and Leviathan**—*actually wins* and takes over the **Marvel Universe**. To make this work believably, we assume:
* They have **extensive prep time** (months or even years).
* They're **cooperating effectively** (hard with egos like TBWL and Lex, but say Constantine binds them magically).
* They prioritize **stealth, manipulation, and divide-and-conquer**, not frontal attacks.---
## 🧠 PHASE 1: INTEL AND INFILTRATION
### 🕒 Epoch scans the timeline
* Epoch explores alternate futures and catalogs **when** Marvel’s major players are weakest (e.g., after Infinity War, Civil War II, etc.).
* He picks a *precise point in time* where Earth's heroes are fractured and cosmic entities are passive or recovering.### 🕷️ Brainiac + Leviathan infiltrate Earth
* Brainiac hacks and takes control of **SHIELD**, **SWORD**, **StarkTech**, and **Krakoan** networks quietly.
* Leviathan builds a **new Hydra-style shadow empire**, creating distrust between superpowers (U.S., Wakanda, Krakoa, Latveria, etc.).### 🎭 Ozymandias manipulates perception
* Orchestrates a **massive false-flag event** (like in *Watchmen*) that causes global panic—a Celestial "return" or fake Kree-Skrull hybrid threat.
* Forces the Avengers, X-Men, and Eternals into global lockdown and internal paranoia.---
## 🔮 PHASE 2: NEUTRALIZE EARTH’S CHAMPIONS
### 🦇 The Batman Who Laughs starts eliminating key players
* Uses **jokerized versions** of alternate Marvel heroes (Multiversal variants corrupted and brainwashed).
* Infects Tony Stark and Reed Richards with **Dark Multiverse tech-viruses**, turning them into paranoid isolationists.### 🔥 Constantine deals with mystics
* Uses his vast magical network to trap or banish **Doctor Strange**, **Scarlet Witch**, and **Magik** in pocket dimensions.
* Leverages Marvel’s **rules-based magic system** (like the Vishanti and chaos magic) to create paradox loops they can’t easily escape.### 🧠 Lex Luthor discredits key figures
* Exposes mutants' secrets to the world, inciting **global anti-mutant hysteria** again.
* Causes a rift in the Avengers by leaking false data about secret Illuminati decisions (like them destroying other worlds in *Incursions*).---
## 🌌 PHASE 3: DEAL WITH COSMIC THREATS
### 🛸 Brainiac uses “bottled” universes
* He lures **Galactus**, **Silver Surfer**, and the **Celestials** into a trap by baiting them with artificially created life-rich worlds.
* Then **miniaturizes and stores** them like he does with Kandor.### 🧿 Epoch tricks the Living Tribunal
* Exploits **chronal loopholes** where the Tribunal is **asleep or inactive** (this has happened in Marvel canon).
* Uses the Time-Space Conglomerate’s tech to phase the team **outside the main multiversal timeline**, avoiding detection.---
## 💀 PHASE 4: TAKE CONTROL OF REALITY
### 🧠 The Final Stroke
* Constantine manipulates **Mephisto** into granting them access to **hell-dimension power** in exchange for the souls of Marvel’s fallen heroes.
* TBWL and Lex use hijacked reality-warping tech from **Reed’s lab** and **Asgardian relics** to reshape Earth’s perception of them as saviors.### 🧠 Brainiac installs himself as a living AI god
* Converts Earth’s internet, satellites, and communication into **one neural network**.
* Leviathan enforces a **new world order**, policing powered individuals and exterminating resistors.---
## 🎯 AFTERMATH: VICTORY
* Earth becomes a **surveilled, ultra-ordered dystopia** where all powered beings are monitored, ranked, or purged.
* Cosmic threats are bottled, mystics are trapped, and even beings like Franklin Richards are locked in **temporal stasis**.
* The **One-Above-All** may notice, but your team has turned the **Marvel Universe into a closed system**, cutting it off from the greater multiverse.---
So the prep time trumps omniscient characters right? Try to keep up.
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Amanda Waller discovers another multiverse that is filled with heroes and gods. She gathers DC's most strategic and intelligent heroes and villains from across the Multiverse to dominate. Do they succeed?1st in command, The Batman Who Laughs (Intelligence level: Multiversal)
2nd in command, John Constantine (Specialty magic)
Tao: Master strategist
Lex Luthor, Smartest Man on Earth
Ozymandias, smartest on Watchmen Earth
Convergence Brainiac: Multiversal intellect
Epoch: Time Master
Leviathan: Rival to Luthor
Hey Dark Saint did you understand the OP?
Originally posted by Smurph
It's not really clear to me how useful Constantine's prep is going to be in an "invades the Marvel Universe" scenario.Marvel has different Hells with different rules, etc. Completely different cosmology in general.
I know the forum rules are that powers normally work the same, but since this is about invading Marvel, it seems like it could be a unique hindrance for him.
Reminds me a bit of All His Engines, when he had to go to LA, and had to learn about all the different gods etc:
Guess it depends on what sort of prep Golgo Waller gives the team - do they somehow get a memory stick filled with information on everyone in Marvel, and they get a week/month to prep (which is why they're team...Prepman) or are they just dropped in Marvel with no resources etc. Obviously as it's Task Force Golgo, I suspect the former.