Magneto versus Thanos
Thanos is base level with no gems or armour. How would he fare against the same metal barrage attack Magneto threw at Apocalypse? Would he no sell it, only obtain scratches, be impaled, or even survive it? Just curious as to the boards opinion on this matter.
This isn't a "who would win scenario", it's just a durability/damage output thread.
Magneto (as an old man) has shown the ability to rip out and lift the Golden Gate Bridge and support structure with his powers, that's 880,000+ tons in lighting weight alone, without factoring in the ripping force required behind the act.
Meaning he could impale Thanos with steel beams with that amount of force. I don't think Thanos could take it indefinitely.
Originally posted by Robtard
Magneto (as an old man) has shown the ability to rip out and lift the Golden Gate Bridge and support structure with his powers, that's 880,000+ tons in lighting weight alone, without factoring in the ripping force required behind the act.Meaning he could impale Thanos with steel beams with that amount of force. I don't think Thanos could take it indefinitely.
Thanks for the reply. The only reason I started this thread is due to my own doubts. I assume that barrage could mess Thanos up, possibly kill him, but I had to take a step back and wonder if I am underestimating Thanos.
The OP wants this to be the Magneto portrayed in Age of Apocalypse. All the metal he hurled at Apocalypse was small and consisted of scrap. The speed at which it was thrown was at least 10 times slower than a 20mm round.
Thanos is vastly more durable than any man-made alloy or natural metal, we're talking orders of magnitude here.
There are videos showing bullets disintegrating on impact with steel plates without leaving a scratch. Likewise, if scrap metal were hurled at Thanos fast enough, it would simply be destroyed on contact.
You guys are funny.
1. Magneto would be able to hold projectiles together as they impact, and even keep pushing them forward after impact...not like bullets decimating on impact. He can probably hold the weakest metals together just as easily as a stronger metal.
2. Apoc shields were purple like his teleportation bubble, and the metal from Magneto was disappearing, not piling up round him. Cyclops energy beam seemed to be getting blocked/deflecting/dissapating by the shield.
Maybe the shield blocks energy attacks but teleports matter away?
Thanos would not survive a barrage by Magneto. Now what would happen if Thor's hammer were thrown at Apocalypse's shields?
Originally posted by Robtard
Magneto (as an old man) has shown the ability to rip out and lift the Golden Gate Bridge and support structure with his powers, that's 880,000+ tons in lighting weight alone, without factoring in the ripping force required behind the act.Meaning he could impale Thanos with steel beams with that amount of force. I don't think Thanos could take it indefinitely.
The ability to lift tons of metal is irrelevant when it comes to damaging something vastly more durable than metal with metal itself. What matters is kinetic energy, not force, when trying to harm Thanos with scrap metal.
In the film, the scrap metal was moving at under 300 ft/s, and there’s no evidence to suggest otherwise. So at best, Magneto could use it to push or move Thanos upon impact. It would not have the necessary kinetic energy to do any damage.
Hypothetically, if Thanos were backed against an indestructible, immovable wall, the scrap metal would simply be destroyed on contact before it could penetrate him. Think of a bullet disintegrating on a metal plate after contact.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Writer's intent was that it was planet destroying force.
Prove it
Originally posted by K-Dog
1. Magneto would be able to hold projectiles together as they impact, and even keep pushing them forward after impact...not like bullets decimating on impact. He can probably hold the weakest metals together just as easily as a stronger metal.
2. Apoc shields were purple like his teleportation bubble, and the metal from Magneto was disappearing, not piling up round him. Cyclops energy beam seemed to be getting blocked/deflecting/dissapating by the shield.
Maybe the shield blocks energy attacks but teleports matter away?Thanos would not survive a barrage by Magneto. Now what would happen if Thor's hammer were thrown at Apocalypse's shields?
1. You're creating a hypothetical scenario that goes against the OP. Magneto is hurling the exact same scrap metal at Thanos in the exact same way he did at Apoc.
2. The metal was either being destroyed on impact or transmuted, as seen by the material forming around the shield.
Originally posted by h1a8
The ability to lift tons of metal is irrelevant when it comes to damaging something vastly more durable than metal with metal itself. What matters is kinetic energy, not force, when trying to harm Thanos with scrap metal.In the film, the scrap metal was moving at under 300 ft/s, and there’s no evidence to suggest otherwise. So at best, Magneto could use it to push or move Thanos upon impact. It would not have the necessary kinetic energy to do any damage.
Hypothetically, if Thanos were backed against an indestructible, immovable wall, the scrap metal would simply be destroyed on contact before it could penetrate him. Think of a bullet disintegrating on a metal plate after contact.
Wrong. Magneto's ability to exert an excess of 880,000+ tons of force via his powers is not irrelevant in this fight.
Wrong. Magneto has shown the ability to propel metal objects at much greater speeds than 300 ft/s. He did so in X2 when breaking free of prison.
Wrong. We're talking about a fictional character with fictional powers that can exert 880,000+ tons of force.
Three wrongs don't make a right.
Originally posted by Robtard
Wrong. Magneto's ability to exert an excess of 880,000+ tons of force via his powers is not irrelevant in this fight.Wrong. Magneto has shown the ability to propel metal objects at much greater speeds than 300 ft/s. He did so in X2 when breaking free of prison.
Wrong. We're talking about a fictional character with fictional powers that can exert 880,000+ tons of force.
Three wrongs don't make a right.
You have no actual debating ability.
I explained why it doesn't matter, and you didn't address it - you just ignored it and repeated yourself. Ignoring rebuttals while repeating your argument isn't debating; it's trolling.
1. The OP created this thread as a continuation of our previous debate about Apocalypse. He wanted others to weigh in on how Thanos would fare against the SAME ATTACK from the SAME MAGNETO. This is essentially a bait thread.
2. What good is force if the object applying it is destroyed or disintegrated in the process? That's like trying to get a feather to penetrate a steel plate, the feather would be destroyed before doing any damage.
3. The bridge feat, performed by a stronger Magneto, only proves he can exert that amount of force over a large area, not that he can concentrate it into a much smaller one.
4. In X2 (a different version of Magneto), Erik never launched anything faster than a rifle bullet. And those speeds and higher, the metal would just disintegrate on Thanos' body the same way bullets disintegrate on hardened steel. At lower speeds, Magneto could manipulate the metal to move or lift Thanos, but that's not the same as harming him.
Choice A: The metal moves fast enough but is destroyed on impact.
Choice B: The metal moves too slowly and merely pushes Thanos.
Originally posted by carver9
Wait, does H1 also mention writer intent in the movie section as well? 🤣🤣🤣
Yep and he ignores actual statements from writers/directors, because he doesnt like their actual intent.
The writers intent he argues for is all made up by him.
Its almost as if he cant really back up his version of stuff.