Let's see, he's super duper strong, super durable, has a healing factor far greater than Wolverine's, flight, unlimited stamina and can move so fast he appears to teleport, or can teleport. If that's not enough, he can only be killed by 'werewolf semen'.
edit: He also has three smoking hot and sexy wives 👆
Originally posted by Robtard
Let's see, he's super duper strong, super durable, has a healing factor far greater than Wolverine's, flight, unlimited stamina and can move so fast he appears to teleport, or can teleport. If that's not enough, he can only be killed by 'werewolf semen'.edit: He also has three smoking hot and sexy wives 👆
1. He definitely has superhuman strength compared to humans, but not in relation to Juggernaut or the Thing. I'm not even sure he can hurt them. Even Luke Cage and Colossus might be a stretch.
2. He needs blood to survive. Without it, his powers fade and he can die. He doesn't have unlimited stamina, though it's clearly superhuman.
3. He might be able to teleport - I don't remember - but he's definitely not fast in combat unless you can show contradictory evidence, like something beyond his fight with Van Helsing.
4. He can be knocked out.
Originally posted by h1a8
1. He definitely has superhuman strength compared to humans, but not in relation to Juggernaut or the Thing. I'm not even sure he can hurt them. Even Luke Cage and Colossus might be a stretch.
2. He needs blood to survive. Without it, his powers fade and he can die. He doesn't have unlimited stamina, though it's clearly superhuman.
3. He might be able to teleport - I don't remember - but he's definitely not fast in combat unless you can show contradictory evidence, like something beyond his fight with Van Helsing.
4. He can be knocked out.
Well, you'd be wrong.
He's literally billed as "immortal" and can only be killed by werewolf venom. When it comes to the parameters of this fight, he's not susceptible to fatigue.
He literally moves so fast he appears to be teleporting in the beginning scenes, that's an onscreen feat so it's valid. Period.
Based on what showing? I don't recall a Dracula KO.
Originally posted by Robtard
Well, you'd be wrong.He's literally billed as "immortal" and can only be killed by werewolf venom. When it comes to the parameters of this fight, he's not susceptible to fatigue.
He literally moves so fast he appears to be teleporting in the beginning scenes, that's an onscreen feat so it's valid. Period.
Based on what showing? I don't recall a Dracula KO.
All vampires are described as "immortal," but that doesn't mean they can't die. It's well-established that vampires need blood to survive - going without it for too long severely weakens them and can lead to death. Similarly, having healing abilities doesn't mean one can regenerate an entire head. You're applying a no-limits fallacy.
Post the scene where he supposedly moves so fast that he teleports. I saw the movie when it was first released in theaters, and I don't recall any actual speed feats.
No one is immune to being knocked out with sufficient force unless there's proof - this is yet another no-limits fallacy.
Originally posted by h1a8
All vampires are described as "immortal," but that doesn't mean they can't die. It's well-established that vampires need blood to survive - going without it for too long severely weakens them and can lead to death. Similarly, having healing abilities doesn't mean one can regenerate an entire head. You're applying a no-limits fallacy.Post the scene where he supposedly moves so fast that he teleports. I saw the movie when it was first released in theaters, and I don't recall any actual speed feats.
No one is immune to being knocked out with sufficient force unless there's proof - this is yet another no-limits fallacy.
Van Helsing Dracula differs a lot from established vampire lore, eg the part were only werewolf venom can kill him should have been a big clue.
It's in the windmil scenel. Your lack of knowledge doesn't mean it didn't happen.
No one? Utter nonsense considering we're talking about fictional characters. eg Can Morgan Freeman's God of Abraman be KO'd? How about beings with no solid form? How about beings of pure energy? Beings of pure thought? You don't know what you're talking about.
Originally posted by Robtard
Van Helsing Dracula differs a lot from established vampire lore, eg the part were only werewolf venom can kill him should have been a big clue.It's in the windmil scenel. Your lack of knowledge doesn't mean it didn't happen.
No one? Utter nonsense considering we're talking about fictional characters. eg Can Morgan Freeman's God of Abraman be KO'd? How about beings with no solid form? How about beings of pure energy? Beings of pure thought? You don't know what you're talking about.
Every vampire in every movie all need to drink blood for sustenance - that's what makes them vampires.
Juggernaut can just sit there and do nothing; Dracula wouldn't be able to affect him. Juggernaut could rip his head and limbs off. Even if Dracula stays alive while dismembered, it doesn’t matter - he's incapacitated and loses.
Nice nitpick. Morgan Freeman is Omnipotent, that's the proof itself. Some energy beings can be knocked out, sure, but that's not my point. I'm referring specifically to corporeal beings.
Originally posted by h1a8
Every vampire in every movie all need to drink blood for sustenance - that's what makes them vampires.Juggernaut can just sit there and do nothing; Dracula wouldn't be able to affect him. Juggernaut could rip his head and limbs off. Even if Dracula stays alive while dismembered, it doesn’t matter - he's incapacitated and loses.
Nice nitpick. Morgan Freeman is Omnipotent, that's the proof itself. Some energy beings can be knocked out, sure, but that's not my point. I'm referring specifically to corporeal beings.
Wrong again. eg Lifeforce (1985), those vampires do not drink blood.
That Juggernaut got sliced up by a mutant teenager with claws in his subsequent film showing.
That's not what you said. Anyhow, Van Helsing Dracula can turn himself into mist at will, so he's also a non-corporeal being.
As it stands, due to VH Dracula's moves so fast he appears to teleport speed, all his opponents would be like statues to him, or moving like sloths.
Originally posted by RobtardAs it stands, due to VH Dracula's moves so fast he appears to teleport speed, all his opponents would be like statues to him, or moving like sloths.
Originally posted by carthage
How would Dracula put down Colossus or Juggs?
Originally posted by Thinkerer
Yeah but Deadpool2 Juggernaut didnt end up in limbo, it was the X3 Juggernaut that did, because of that timeline being completely discarded.
Yeah I get that. Was just disappointed given the Deadpool movies usually portrayed characters fairly well.
Originally posted by riv6672
I liked X3 Juggernaut.
Vinnie Jones was good casting (as in, he actually had a personality), and the outfit was cooler.
He was pretty tough. But too much is a sidekick. And to just have Charles walking past him with nothing… No reaction at all shrug
He was pretty tough. But too much is a sidekick. And to just have Charles walking past him with nothing… No reaction at all
I personally just try and enjoy any FX and action scenes they manage to do well.
Originally posted by riv6672
^^^Well yeah, those movies were mostly terrible. Maybe a few cuts above the Sony Venom/Kraven/Madame Web crapfests.I personally just try and enjoy any FX and action scenes they manage to do well.
Agreed I'm generally not a fan of the first three X-Men movies. Mostly because they were just Wolverine movies. The best parts were the whole Xavier/Magneto conflict, which is why I loved the First Class series. Even the last two Fassbender saved them for me.
Loved the first two Deadpool movies as well. Not a big fan of the last one because again those movies generally portrayed characters decently (Deadpool, Colossus, Cable), and had a good story and character arc on top of the comedy and action. Whilst the last one had no story, no real character arc didn't give a crud for doing guys like Juggernaut right, and just seemed to all be based on the hype of a Deadpool and Wolverine team up.