Prime doesn't have really anything in the way of feats. What he does have is context of story though.
For example, in Future State, Unkindness, The Lords of Chaos, and the Deadly Sins, whole plan relied on sneak attacking Prime with everything they had and ending everything before he got a chance to get back up and beat them.
The narrative also tells us perfectly, in the moment they watched Prime go down, all hope was lost.
In the following scenes, all the powerful beings left in the multiverse were all huddled together in fear inside of Fate's tower, where they moved the remnants of many of these dimensions/worlds. Their plan was just to wait out and make a new creation afterwards.
Several characters present there individually out of the ones you can make out are above RKT, not including an potential amount we don't see.
This gives us an idea of where DC considers Prime. He's above all these guys combined.
Just as an example of what we saw in Fate's Tower was The Spectre, 5th dimension beings, the remnants of heaven and hell, of new genesis, Phantom Stranger. The Wizard. The amazons, etc etc.
Originally posted by Juntai
Prime doesn't have really anything in the way of feats. What he does have is context of story though.For example, in Future State, Unkindness, The Lords of Chaos, and the Deadly Sins, whole plan relied on sneak attacking Prime with everything they had and ending everything before he got a chance to get back up and beat them.
The narrative also tells us perfectly, in the moment they watched Prime go down, all hope was lost.
In the following scenes, all the powerful beings left in the multiverse were all huddled together in fear inside of Fate's tower, where they moved the remnants of many of these dimensions/worlds. Their plan was just to wait out and make a new creation afterwards.
Several characters present there individually out of the ones you can make out are above RKT, not including an potential amount we don't see.
This gives us an idea of where DC considers Prime. He's above all these guys combined.
Just as an example of what we saw in Fate's Tower was The Spectre, 5th dimension beings, the remnants of heaven and hell, of new genesis, Phantom Stranger. The Wizard. The amazons, etc etc.
That’s not what happened, they beat him on levels that were not physical. He had no chance even with prep. The same would happen here with RK Thor. He wouldn’t even be able to harm him on a physical level, because of his transcendence. This is a no contest.
Originally posted by Juntai
Prime doesn't have really anything in the way of feats. What he does have is context of story though.For example, in Future State, Unkindness, The Lords of Chaos, and the Deadly Sins, whole plan relied on sneak attacking Prime with everything they had and ending everything before he got a chance to get back up and beat them.
The narrative also tells us perfectly, in the moment they watched Prime go down, all hope was lost.
In the following scenes, all the powerful beings left in the multiverse were all huddled together in fear inside of Fate's tower, where they moved the remnants of many of these dimensions/worlds. Their plan was just to wait out and make a new creation afterwards.
Several characters present there individually out of the ones you can make out are above RKT, not including an potential amount we don't see.
This gives us an idea of where DC considers Prime. He's above all these guys combined.
Just as an example of what we saw in Fate's Tower was The Spectre, 5th dimension beings, the remnants of heaven and hell, of new genesis, Phantom Stranger. The Wizard. The amazons, etc etc.
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Originally posted by Juntai
😆Prime>>>>>>>>>>>>the inhabitants of fate tower. I don't have the several centuries required to hold the >>> key to put how far above RKT the guys in Fates tower were.
Based on what exactly? Because you say so? The Ones that sat above in shadow were very much Abstract beings, Rune King Thor towered above them.
You don’t know what you are talking about. What was written concerning Rune King Thor, is that he is immune to physical attack, and like the Unkind, he would have been immune to physical damage. Prime on the other hand has been shown to be severely harmed by magical attacks, and it doesn’t come more magically packed than Rune King Thor. He could literally pull his head off and walk around having a conversation with Prime. How? The same objects of power gave him omniscience. This actually deserves the slogan now you’re playing with power!
You’re entire argument borders on the idea that anything that Prime did would matter. It would not. He would hit Rune King Thor and have an immune icons flash off in the corner. Not a fight.
Thor being who he was, would know who Superman was and talk him down. Although having the power to do far worse.
Originally posted by Stoic
Based on what exactly? Because you say so? The Ones that sat above in shadow were very much Abstract beings, Rune King Thor towered above them.You don’t know what you are talking about. What was written concerning Rune King Thor, is that he is immune to physical attack, and like the Unkind, he would have been immune to physical damage. Prime on the other hand has been shown to be severely harmed by magical attacks, and it doesn’t come more magically packed than Rune King Thor. He could literally pull his head off and walk around having a conversation with Prime. How? The same objects of power gave him omniscience. This actually deserves the slogan now you’re playing with power!
You’re entire argument borders on the idea that anything that Prime did would matter. It would not. He would hit Rune King Thor and have an immune icons flash off in the corner. Not a fight.
Thor being who he was, would know who Superman was and talk him down. Although having the power to do far worse.
He had Odin's abilities, plus the advantage of humanity. That's it.
He did the exact same things to get the exact same gifts Odin possesses.
He was able to hide from and ignore TWSAIS because of humanity. A gift also that Odin gave him., because he saw it was the way.
He never displayed anything close to Spectre, let alone a 5th dimension imp, let alone the entire 5th dimension, heaven, hell, 4th world, etc etc. And all of them ran and hid when Superman fell. Without him, the battle was already lost.
Yeah , just re-read Mighty Thor 80-85.
RKT is vastly overrated in terms of battleboards. His 'power' is limited to being extremely Thorcentric in terms of plot. TWSAIS fed on the cycle of Ragnarok, Thor having a human dimension to him thought differently to other gods before him, and so his humanity shielded him from TWSAIS and he could sever the thread. That was all.
It's akin to breaking the 4th wall, but only for the story of Asgard. He recognised that the story was doomed to repeat itself, unless he did something different. Joker recognises he's in a comic book, but that doesn't mean he's suddenly beating everyone.
Mangog was weakened.
TWSAIS are likely not Beyonders, that was just one of Loki's potential theories. He also didnt battle them. He just destroyed the thread, because they have no dominion over him, since Odin sent him to live among humans. He's free to make choices Odin wasn't, which was Odin's plan.
regardless those who shit above in shadows live outside of the third dimensional reality, in fact they live outside all realities
the place they were in made eternity and lifebringer galactus freak the fuk out because it's so outside of their worldview
and i would take loki's word for authority on this matter
the only being in stature really above them would be oblivion who is basically the void of marvel.
Originally posted by MrMind
regardless those who shit above in shadows live outside of the third dimensional reality, in fact they live outside all realities
the place they were in made eternity and lifebringer galactus freak the fuk out because it's so outside of their worldview
and i would take loki's word for authority on this matterthe only being in stature really above them would be oblivion who is basically the void of marvel.
So true that well said ! I was thinking the same thing to ..
Originally posted by MrMindLoki suggested a few theories and didn’t seem happy with any of them. So I wouldn’t consider that any form of authority. It’s about as authoritative as the guy in Monty Python and Holy Grail who failed to answer his favorite color and got yeeted.
regardless those who shit above in shadows live outside of the third dimensional reality, in fact they live outside all realities
the place they were in made eternity and lifebringer galactus freak the fuk out because it's so outside of their worldview
and i would take loki's word for authority on this matterthe only being in stature really above them would be oblivion who is basically the void of marvel.
just want to add the unkindness was peak raven, she has the power to destroy all creation and shown to be omniversal
writer Jeremy Adams even claimed she was more powerful than presence and could drain overvoid power (take it with a grain of salt since it's off panel)
her feats in future state rival some of the best in the dc history. she consumed all realities, all higher planes of existence in dc which include sphere of god, heaven and hell etc.
she destroyed the entire multiverse and was in the process of consuming the entire omniverse. she was a bonafide omniversal power
and it was shown in comics raven was clearly more powerful than golden supes
as for this thread golden supes beat rkt for sure