I wont pretend to be a genius like all those critics - I dont get LOTR - the film has a great message, but the lavishness & grandeur of the production drowned it out!
its like what they say of the wedding dress of Princess Diana (may her soul RIP, sorry).. a simple one would have highlighted her beauty, but the one she wore drowned it out.
Its only message is - the power to save the world / conquer evil is not in the hands of great wizards & warriors, but in the lowly hobbits who have nothing but purity of heart - that being the very reason why the ring of power (almost) has no effect on them.
and thats it?! thats what all that big fuss is about?
Harry Potter is deep material pretending to be light (intentionally) in order to get its message across EFFECTIVELY to its target audience. LOTR on the other hand is a shallow material pretending to be deep/heavy. And what audience is LOTR targeting - not children? all ages then? anything definite?
i know someone who has read the books & said its a boring read - that the film was more interesting.
But the film was reduced to nothing but a highly entertaining movie - its beautiful message hidden under tons of special effects - mysterious to a bedazzled audience.
i liken Tolkien to the master of a genie in a bottle - the LOTR story is that genie. The all-powerful genie can do anything, but it does only what its master commands it to do - Tolkien refused to set his genie free.
LOTR is too stiff! OVER-RATED. Tolkien doesnt know how to lighten up. Chill out Tolkien! And the same goes out to all the movie/literary critics who think they're wiser than everyone else.
you are sayin lotr is shallow and harry potter is deep, what the **** seriously im not sure why im even replying to this it is SO ridiculous
lord of the rings is not just about the smallest of people shaping the fortune of all
it is a love story- aragorn must defeat sauron in order to become king of gondor and arnor, only then may he marry arwen
lotr is a VERY deep work it has background books history and everything
harry potter is a book basically for kids, HOW is it deep, its a different story every book, just with this snake man git stood in the background looking and sounding menacing sayin "oooh im he who must not be named, but i cant kill a 14 year old boy ohhhhh"
i'm just very opinionated 😈
its just that i feel like the LOTR franchise & the movie critics are forming some kind of mafia to OVER-HYPE the trilogy - to make more money & win more awards for the film/franchise.
I dont see anything that big about it really. Its big alright, but not that big.
plus, why do they have to lambast the Harry Potter books? if LOTR is so much more better, they shouldnt even compare it. what are the LOTR fans so insecure about in the Potter books?
just read the title of this thread if you cant get it - and to top that, its in the Harry Potter boards!
They are bth deep, but HP is an easier read fo rkids. HP's story is pretty basic though
Every year new DADA teacher, somehow related wth the problem, either hates Harry or likes him(exception being Lockhart). A fight at the end between Harry and Voldy, or his follwers. Oh and the plot is, voldemort had found a new way of gaining power, but Harry finds out, and they have a duel to stop Voldy. Still the pplot has lots of sub-plots, unlike LOTR which is based around three plots, Frodo+Sam, Pippin+Merry, Aragorn, Legolas+Gimli.
I enjoyed them both, but I loved the attention to detail that Tolkien included, and Tom Bombadil's character is one of the best ever created.
we are insecure because no matter how much better lotr is potter is written lightly more kids read it than do lotr, so eventually potter will be seen as the best, even though, it is just not, i like potter books, but nowhere near as good as lotr
how is lotr shallow?
how is potter deep
^answer tham two for me plase^
like i said, the Potter books is deep & multi-layered in the sense that it touches on sensitive issues such as racism, the government's interference in the educational system - but it is done so wittingly.
the messages can be viewed in 2 perspectives - a child's & an adult's - yet the messages directed for children do not lose significance when viewed from an adult's perspective.
it is said that sometimes when you want to find the answers to some of the world's most difficult questions - you must ask a child & you'll be surprised that a child can give you a more matured answer than most other adults.
The undertones of racism can be seen in the discrimination between muggles & the members of the wizarding world - also within the wizarding world between pure-bloods & half-bloods.
about LOTR being shallow, well, i dont want to delve into specifics, i havent read the books, but have watched the 3 films - i dont see anything so amazing about it.
Originally posted by sauron
exactly youv seen the films, you HAVENT read the books, if i were to judge hp by the movies i wouldnt even be here, your not delving into specifics because you HAVE NONEbefore you crap on lotr read the damn books
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!
no one has any right to say anyth abt lotr until the've read the books✅
that's the essence✅