Alright Kit, you got me reading this so now you know I gotta reply to these crack headed people 😛 First of all, sauron, I bow to you. Where would we be without you?? However, I dissagree about how JKR copied Tolkien. She had her own ideas, but she did base a few things on LOTR. Please don't get mad at me or anything sauron, I'm just stating my opinion. I, personally, like both HP and LOTR, however I like LOTR much better. No offense to HP fans or anything. JKR wrote wonderful and imaginative books, but I think they are meant mostly for children. I'm not saying the HP books are bad, because I like them very much. I'm just saying that LOTR books and movies are more mature and mainly not for little kids. And, Joy, I don't think you should even have replied to this thread. You have no right to talk about how bad LOTR is because you have not even read the frickin books! Go read the trilogy and THEN tell me what you think about LOTR. I still don't see how you thought LOTR was predictable! If someone read the books, I could understand that. But you have not read the books, so tell me, how could you have known, as sauron said, that Gollum was going to destroy the ring? Or that Frodo left the Shire with Bilbo and Gandalf and the Elves to go to Valinor(sp?)? I bet you didn't even know where he was going til I just now told you. And how could you have known that Sam married Rose? Sure, he talked about it, but how could you have known that he would actually do it? And how could you have known that King Theoden dies? Or Aragorn marries Arwen? Or Arwen doesn't go to the Grey Havens, but stays to marry Aragorn? Or Denethor tried to murder Faramir and himself? Or that any of them would even survive? Tell me how you could have known that? Huh? I don't see why the person who started this thread even posted here, in the HP forum!, that s/he hated HP...I wonder if s/he didn't even expect for everyone to jump on her/him. This exact same thing happened in the LOTR forum and it was not pretty. Believe me. Also, Joy, I don't get why the movies didn't make you want to read the books? I didn't even know what LOTR was until the first movie came out. I then fell in love with it and bought the books and have read them many times now. It was the movie that made me want to read the books. For the HP series, however, I read the books before the movie. I think that the books were much better, in my opinion. The movies could have been a whole lot better if they tried. But they didn't so it could never match up to the wonderous story of LOTR. Tolkien is a magnifiscent(sp?) author of fiction and I think he did a brilliant job. LOTR is a classic and it will never die. Like sauron said, HP will eventually die, no matter what diehard HP fans say (and nothing against HP fans), but LOTR never will. Many things like Pokemon began and everyone thought that it was going to be around for ages and ever. But look at it now. No one watches Pokemon anymore. I'm not sure anyone even remembers Pokemon. The same will happen with HP. It's just a phase and it will pass. However, LOTR is no phase and it will be cherished and loved for ever and anon. LOTR is a work of a pure genius and no one will ever match up to the works of Tolkien no matter how hard s/he tries. JKR is a very talented author, I have to admit, and I adore the HP books, but LOTR is so much more interesting and enchanting, I think. I love HP, of course, though. I love the books, but no so much the movies. However, I loved the LOTR books AND the movies. No books that get turned into movies will ever be as wonderful and great as LOTR. The HP movies have almost everything EXACTLY the same as the books and I find that boring. I would rather read the books than watch a movie that has the same thing in it. There's no difference except for the fact that it's on a screen. But the LOTR movies made some changes from the books. I would have loved to see Tom Bombadil on screen, though, but it was amazing all the same. If it was the exact same thing with the exact same words, it would be the same as HP. But they took out a few things and changed around some things (ex. when Eowyn took Merry up on her horse, he realized it was her from the start. But in the books, she went by a different name and Merry didn't realize it was her til later. Also, Gollum didn't poison Frodo against Sam in the books. So many other things happened, too.) so it made it, not better, but still an awesome movie. I am, however, glad that PJ kept some lines from the movie the same as in the books. I found that very enjoyable. Unlike HP where everything was so similar that it became boring and useless. They might as well not have made a movie of HP. You could just read the books and it would be the same thing. But for LOTR, you can read the books and watch the movies and you'll still be entertained. The movies did not copy every single thing in the books, which is a good thing. If they did, there would be no use to the films, just like the HP films. Alright, my fingers hurt now haha. I think I've made my point 😛 And if I haven't, I'll post more and convince all you anti-LOTR people that LOTR is better than HP. I'm not saying HP sucks, because it doesn't. I like HP very much. I just happen to like LOTR much better. Forgive me for making this so long, but I had to get my point across hehe.