oh yeah i forgot to say that while i agree with myself, Lucas could tone it down a bit and not have everyone connected.....but for the most part its interesting to see how everything comes together and resolves itself in Episode 6
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LucasSucks! needs to chill
but just because destiny exists you will kill a plot?? ruin what i dreamed of seing since i saw the original movies?? im sick of that destiny thing in star wars... everyone says i have a bad feeling about all this, they all end up in the same cliched situations, they all know each other!! its not the destiny thing its that theyre doing somthing that doesnt amaze people at all they dont give anything fresh... just stuff for the fans! i didnt want to see Yoda fight like that! I wanted to see him kick Dookoo without lifting a finger! thats a true master! Using the freaking force! why kill the character??! Yoda lives with the force and what happened to all he said in the preivious movies like the real strenght is from within and size matters not?? he didnt applied all those in that fight! he can lift an X-wing preety easily but he can hardly lift that tube that was about to smash obi one and anakin.... sorry guys... but star wars has changd from good movies to special effects non inteligent plot movies
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Let's try and keep thingsa calm, people. You are not being greatly coherent, Lucas.That Fett plot isn't actually because of the fans, that was always there when he wrote the originals. Chewbacca is DEFINITELY because of the fans though.
wrong my friend! When A new Hope went out BOba didnt even existed. He was created in a A new Hope cartoon christhmas special and then incorporated in ESB because the fans liked him. In the comics they are called the mandalorian soilders and Boba was just one of the original Storm troopers. The Jango appeared in the new once very forcely because they urged for an ESB look in the new star wars films... marketing pourposes.
So as you can see Fett wasnt invision by Geor Lucas at first he boroowed it! so it wasnt meant to be since the begining
Not wrong at all, Lucas- GL had it in mind right from the start that a bounty hunter was the template for the stormtroopers- and also, Boba Fett's presence in ESB was NOTHING to do with the execrable Holiday Special, he would have been in ESB anyway.
In any case, it was NOT fan demand that caused a Fett to appear in AOTC- as I say, it was a plot he had been toying with for ages. It originally would have been Boba but the timing was not right so he invented Jango.
And ignore what the comics say.
I know he was in the Holiday Special first but that apperance made no difference to whether he was in Empire or not, as you suggested.
The reason it is Boba is because THAT is the Bounty Huinter GL was referring to! He theorised that a bounty hunter was their father. He then put that Bounty Hunter in the films. Why would it then be ANOTHER Bounty Hunter?
Then, as I say, when he finally made that story official he knew the timing would not work with Boba so he created Jango. Nothing to do with the fans- UNLIKE, as I say, Chewie, who has been put in in direct contradiction in what GL said before so is clearly just a populist move.
i dont know... i was expecting a better twist on the plot than that.
And Lucas said that Storm troopers bounce their heads in the other triology beause Jango was clumsy aswell and he passed that genetically.... explain me that.... dont you find that stupid?????
that ofcourse is in the attack of the clones DVD the audio commentary in the genoasis fight when jango bounces his head with the ship
Originally posted by Lucas Sucks!
wrong my friend! When A new Hope went out BOba didnt even existed. He was created in a A new Hope cartoon christhmas special and then incorporated in ESB because the fans liked him. In the comics they are called the mandalorian soilders and Boba was just one of the original Storm troopers. The Jango appeared in the new once very forcely because they urged for an ESB look in the new star wars films... marketing pourposes.
So as you can see Fett wasnt invision by Geor Lucas at first he boroowed it! so it wasnt meant to be since the begining
Dude, you are sooo wrong it isn't even funny!!
First off, Boba was GL's creation! The Holiday Special aired in and around X-mas of 1979, Production on Empire STARTED in 1978, more then a year before the Cartoon was released!!! Lucasd didn't wirte, direct, or produce the Holiday special, in fact he utterly despises the Holiday special. Fox, when making the Holiday special took Boba from Lucas' FINSHED script for ESB, and used some of the later concept drawings, that is why he looks so different in the cartoon then he does in the movie. Want more proof of how wrong you are!!! On the Vintage Kenner Toys, an Offer for a FREE Boba Fett figure started showing up on the toys in late 1978 and early 1979, again a year before the Holiday special aired. Why is this imporatant? Because it was LUCAS that owned all licensing rights to the figures, NOT FOX! Kenner was able to make and give away a Boba Fett figure two years before ESB and one year before the Holiday Special because Lucas went to them with the plans as he already had a script in hand and had already dreamed Boba up in HIS head! You really need to check the FACTS!
how come i have star wars cards and ive seen tv interviews where they said his first appeareance was in the cartoon.
I think that all that clone thing with jango started now.....
look.... when lucas wrote phantom menace he didnt even thought about a count dokoo, he didnt even knew if it was going to be an alien or not.
his reinventing everything up again.
Originally posted by Furius
"Why would it then be ANOTHER Bounty Hunter?"
(dont know how to do that quote thing)Why not? In a galaxy with trillions of people in it theres bound to be more than one bounty hunter. they couldve made him from scratch as a brand new enemy
Did you not read what I said, Furius? He put in Boba SPECIFICALLY as the guy who was meant to have fathered the Clones! That was the back story he gave the character! That was rather the point.
And Lucas, again no-one is denying that Fett was IN the cartoon first. But he was not thought of FOR the cartoon- he was thought up FOR ESB, they nabbed him the the Holiday Speical and got that out first.
And you can continue to have that opinion about Fett if you want but it contradicts the sources we have. And yes, he did not have Count Dooku in his mind when he wrote TPM- but he DID know there would be another Sith Lord doing all that, he just hadn't specified the character.
We all know GL makes a lot of stuff up as he goes along and as I say, Chewbacca is evidence of that. But having a Fett in the prequels being a vital part of the founding of the Clone army was an idea he came up with right back when making the originals.