What is Persephone's significance?

Started by PintofPaint3 pages

It's not a teaser, just something that I heard about or read on another board, can't remember.

Maybe she was one of the ONES??🙂

Maybe, (I may be wrong on this) but don't all the other one look like neo, ie. in the room of the archeitect when all the other neo's were on the screens. Either way, I think she has a really big part in revoltions, good or bad.

They weren't the other Ones (predecessors) because there were too many. I think they're likely to be possibilities of his reactions (e.g. notice when the Architect says that "denial is the most predictable human trait", all the other Neos are denying what he just said).

I still think that the Oracle is the "mother of the Matrix" that is referred to, despite the puh-leese from the Architect. I think that the tone suggests that the Architect finds the name given to her ridiculous and perhaps even patronising. After all, he probably knew her as Program 2234545AH24 or something....

With the Cain and Abel thing, I doubt that it has any relevance to the Persephone thing - different mythologies and civilisations - and I tend to think that the W. Bros just needed a pair of names for a duo (we're lucky they weren't called Bill & Ben...)

The thing about Seraph needing to fight, and Persephone needing to kiss makes perfect sense to me. Persephone does seem to learn a lot about Ghost and Niobe after kissing them, but what about that sinister warning to Neo? "Such things are not meant to last" Is she referring to the death-and-resurrection of Trinity or something that will happen in Revolutions?

Deimos

AnotherSMithy> Yes, a fruit. That is not the point. The point is, that in the myth the God of the Underworld, aka Hades, lured Persephone to eat SOMETHING, which forced her to stay in the realm of darkness and death. Just as the Merovingian in M2 uses a cake to force a woman to be more, hm, easy to seduce.

BestTrinity> Interesting theory. This far we assume that the previous Ones were all MEN. Nothing to rule out it could've been a woman. And knowing the Wachowskis love for strong women, who knows? 🙂

PintofPaint> There have only been five other anomalies aside from Neo. The screens in the Architects room showed hundreds of Neos (or rather his states of mind during the talk). The previous chosen Ones were younger than our hero, and the children in the Oracles office shows, that no one knew what the sixth anomaly was supposed to look like.

Deimos> Persephone says that after looking at Trinity with that “I envy you” remark. So what does that mean? Is Persephone physic in the read-program-language-not-yet- executed-sense, or is she just speaking from her own experience?
I think she simply knows that the previous Ones went to the Source. If Neo had done that, every person in Zion (including Trinity) would’ve died in the machine onslaught. The reason we may think she speaks of Trinitys death, is that at this point in the film the Oracle, too, has hinted at the demise of Neos love.

i think her purpose was 2 be a chancer and generally stir up trouble (i dont like her btw just so u know)

Just out of interest Korri, your hatred wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Persephone got to kiss Keanu would it? 😄 😉

Deimos

well done sherlock 🙂

Korri> And that would be Persephones ONLY purpose???

no she probably has sum significance but 2 me she is just an annoyance

According to the article is S:2 (which for your reading benefit I'm almost done typing up on the other computer and so will be available to all), Perseph is devoid of emotions because she's from an older version of the Matrix. So now she feeds on others emotions because she, like some other exiles I suppose, doesn't run the same as in 'her' version, so she need "updates" if you will, other people's emotions to make up for the loss of her own.

~Ikobe

Ikobe> Hm, interesting idea, as I stumbled upon another thread, suggesting that Persephone is a “vampire”, not in the real blood-feeding sense, but that is how the system would interpret her, being as she is, a rogue program.
It also fits with the scene in EtM where she tells Ghost, that she also enjoys the taste of tears. Any emotion will do it for her. Good point.

She is a program, plain and simple. Kissing is how she downloads information. Like how Seraph fights people, to download information. She kisses people because she is trying to understand emotions and feelings. She is not learning about them. And about what she said to Neo "Such a thing, is not ment to last" I think that she was just jealous that she once knew that feeling and now its gone.

Originally posted by GABRIEL05
Hello Nickdirtyrider. I am the GABRIEL05. I approve of most of your theory, however there are certain parts I find fantastic at best, preposterous at worst. For example; the portion about Neo finding out he is half machine and Persephone unlocking his powers by kissing him is impractical. I find it hard to believe that half of Neo is man and the other half machine, or Program. Ergo the substantiality of that theory is low.

The likelihood that Persephone is the mother of the matrix isn't concordant with her name. We are cognizant that a sentients name, or title in the Matrix has a direct correlation with it's function and purpose in said matrix. In the case of Persephone her name implies she is the daughter of Zeus (Architect) and Demeter(error unknown), abducted by Pluto (Merovingian) to reign with him over the underworld (club hell, the matrix?). Using this knowledge we can assume that Persephone is the equivalent of a daughter to the Architect. However apropos your prediction regarding Persephone, if there is anyone properly entitled for this task in which you prescribed her, it would be Demeter. The Goddess of emotion and agriculture, who I believe is her mother. The common assumption is that she is the Oracle, but I doubt that it is so. In conclusion the idea that Persephone will show Neo how to feel the machines and open his mind in some way, or that he is half machine, or half program is highly unlikely. Your theories are a systemic anomaly inherent to the...systemic programming of...equivalent...

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i thought she was abducted by Hades

I heard she sucks the life force out of you by kissing you. Some guys might like that though.

poor neo 🙁

Originally posted by Korri
i thought she was abducted by Hades

Hades, Pluto, Roman, Greek, potatoe, potatoe, tomato, tomato

ohhhh oki doki 🙂

Potato. No 'e'.

~AI