Don’t worry alic88 I’m a huge Terminator fan and I liked T3 (although I’m one of the few true fans that liked IT) T3 was more geared to the mainstream public rather then pleasing us true fans. It had great action No one can say it didn’t have that. But the story was defiantly lacking things that the first Two had.
As for the Matrix movies…there is this big war the world gets nuked (Ohh you mean judgment day) then the robots start to enslave the humans so they can use them for energy. There are these computer programs “agents” (or robots basically) that look just like humans (sweet bad breathe) one of the agents is more advanced (agent Smith AKA T-1000 the rest are less advanced like T-101’s) but there is one man that fights back…. his name was john Conner your son Sarah….or Neo (ohhhh Neo “ONE” I get it…damn tricky movie)…..anyone want to take a guess what the Wachowski brothers favorite movie is….Hmmmm T1 could be…
You do know that the brothers had wanted Will Smith to play the role of Neo they thought he was a way better actor then keanu. And yes they are right about that.
PLEASE DON’T LET THE NEXT MATRIX FILM SUCK MORE THEN THE LAST ONE…. there almost as bad as the new star wars movies
P.S. they never planed to make more Matrix films the brothers only wrote one they didn’t right a trilogy like George Lucas. But the studio asked them to write more and they did unfortunately (but they have already said 3 is it…YES)
Alic88 you are a b----! There now that you resorted to name calling i'm replying saying that i'm mad that you could possibly like t3. Now that childish behavior is aside and name calling an anger are aside, You responded to a typo.... What i meant to say is t3 is good if you(meaning if someone) never saw the first two. It would be like if reloded happened first and then the matrix second, eveyonw would have thought it topped the first, not pick it because it is first. I did'nt say you were young, I implied that when people have an expericne when they are young often time details stick like storylines and they expect that quality form sequels. It's harder to judge a movie when comparing it to the first two, but t3 would seem even better if we never saw t1 or t2, this is why it is trailing behind the league and bad boys, and pirates.. when t2 was out it and t1 topped the box office and no movies such as these could have threatened it...There was no need to start the name calling...I see why cocoon reacted.....no reason to get pissedlike that, we are all stating our opinions and ideas and feeling and i like to base mine with what i feel is facts why certain movies are more likable than others, but in the long run it's up to taste...Keanu reeves sucks as an actor and frankly neither him nor will smith aren't really much better than arnie.. why, Whell I THINK THAT john malcovich, gene hackman, (sometimes denzel washington) al pacino, robert dinero, morgan freeman, george clooney, kurt douglass kurt russell, alec baldwin, nick nolte, russel crowe, (stallione was good in first blood, rocky 5, and get carter and some others) these i consider good actors and they even have award to back it up.. some others, but i didn't mention all the good ones, will smith is funny and a goo lyricsit and is fortunate to have good roles..like keanu was fortunate to land matrix, but the movie was good, not him, same with will smith...but i watch their movies.. I think this stuff boils down to taste and facts.. not name calling. So i had a typo in my message and i'm correcting it.. can't we all just get along? I dont base fandom on what merchandise just on the movie side ..thats what we are talking about, the shirts and stuff are a different topic. Your age has nothing to do with not being able to watch the movies.. you misunderstood me. And i'm sure you might have seen the first two it's just that MANY who like t3 are people who never saw 1 and 2.. MANy.. few who did often don't say it's better than 1 or 2 and those that do say so typically because it was different and thus original, well the first two ar equally if not mor original and james cameron has more #1 hits than mostow and mostow did an ok job to not be the creator, but not a good enough job making the story seamless. I appaud originallity, but in a sequell, i dunno if you want to change what a ferrari is, buy a different car, you can't improve a ferrari, by changing everything, you have to keep what make the ferrari great and change only what's broken to improve the car.. you don't change most of the car,, you risk ruining the end product. mostow took the risk and i congratulate him, but many feel that sometimes risk improve or worsen. I don't think t3 bettered 1 or 2 and with high terminator fan standards as we should have, comparitivly, t3 did suck..relatively, as did matrix 2.
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DONT U EVER THINK THAT I HAVEN'T WATCHED T1 AND T2 . I HAVE GOT MORE TERMINATOR MERCHANDISE THAN U EVER KNOW OF! I AM A BIGGER TERMINATOR FAN THAN U R! JUST B COZ I AM YOUNGER DOESN'T MEAN THAT I CANT WATCH THE MOVIES. I HAVE WATCHED IT 100Z OF TIMES, BOTH ONES! U IDIOT u just got me so mad!
korri, since you want to start with the vulgarities, well then F U C K, Y O U too, B I T C H ! there! Now that we are on level playiing fields, matrix 3 sucked and if you don't like the terminator flicks, then so be it. I just don't undersatand why come here to tell us that all the movies are no good when the term fans aren't going to the matrix site and telling them that all their movies suck..It's a matter of fairness. Say what you want, but i just think that term people shouldn't go to the mat site and say they all suck and we shouldn't be victimized by that either.. now if you think one of the t movies suck with respect to another, that' what the rest of us are here for and we are ll ears.
I agree with you alic88 but i think t3 had the potential to beat t2..just like t2 had the potental to beat t1..it's jsut t1 and t2 are tuff acts to follow and t3 looks better when not compared with t1and2. I think marteix reloded looks better if not compared with matrix..it' just hard to no compare what youare used to..it is sad sarah wasn't in it. I wish they could write her in...creatively and lets us see her murder @ the beginning of t4 before the war takes full swing..@ the hand of the la police .
No, tx was sold as a superio model, so it's ability to be superior is a valid issue and judging the movie as it is is exactly what we are doing..it's obvious that it' not going to change the movie. hey i liked t1 and t2 and i would want people to take those they way they are, but they have falws too and it's okay to state opinions about things that could have been done better, fan help mold the box office sales and our opinions as fans are what matters....I don't thin putting in tx was the best move and it being a female is not he issue.. the girl is pretty in real life....nobody is crazy regarding that issue...some peopl just feel that the 1000 was the most advanced not the tx. And they are all very valid points we are all viewing t3 from a different point of view.. our own not yours and that is what minds and eyes and opinion is all about
when i buy a new home, i'm hoping that the reason why i'm even looking considered, otherwise why not buy one just as good as the first? well because we are hoping for improvement somewhwhere,, I mean that is a part of life..we just have to be real..i mean we ar judging the parts of thw whole seres.. looking at a movie independently is not the primary purpose of a sequel.. that's why it's a sequel. it should be looked at in light of the first. Only excuse is if it is the first movie seen. then there's nothing you can do. I just hope w bros learns form these mstakes...We are her to voice our happiness and disgust and that is what we are doing i mean why talk about sarah connor?..becasue she was an aspect and part of the first two, that most agree lacked in this movie..now if we conceptuallize this movie indeoendently, that whay talk about sarah conner then. I'm sorry, most disagree.. we have to look at the whole story and the whole saga and discusee the faults of all 3 and the good stuff of all 3 and hope that each movie will have the best of what the others had..nothing wrong with that!
i think if it was sprent like it was in t1 it would have been twice the movie of t2, but since it appeared thant3 was full of unnecessary things like catching bullets in mouths and psychology courses, that if just didn not meet up to the pequesite standards that terminator movies set. I think t3 will be an easy act to follow, but in defense of t3 t2 and t1 were tough acts to follow
Well, skynet in all reality appererd to be a software program then independently became self aware and was then released (indepedndednt of tx) and i think that skynet the defense program as kyle reese said took over defnese computers and defense networks..it was always meant to involve the military, cyberdyne just developed the tech and a subcontractor, a defense subcontracotr like general dynamics to the us govt. this is how aircraft were flown they were military craft, i think the thing behind skynet is that skynet will evolve inti the traditional skynet..why, when it launced warheads and the warheads came back, much of the lan lines and communications systems went down...thye aren't bulletproof they are man made, the same things than crippled the humans, crippled the machines, but the plan was not ro ramain a vulnerable softward program that is limited to wiring and antennas that were destroyed in the war, it is likely that skynet came into being (beyond software) after the nukes were launched. skynet took hold via the internet of manufacturing facilities and alloy fountres and any assembly factories that were primaritly computer run and operated..of the most advanced was cyberdyne systems..who at one point developed machinery...well skynet after spreading obviously some of those buildong got destroyed during the nukes...and the ones that remained after they had been chosen were primarilty technologically advance d organizations, well cyber-sytems of it's many branch divisiones, one remained.at the very least. and skynet must feel the need to via force threaten a human to assist and likely surround buildings that are critical to it's survival....the very factories where the prototype hks' and other defense machinery are built. so thye use the machinses in t3 and produce more and take over giving them time to place machines in place to defend the interests of syberdyne ans skynet itself. in the porcess they loose some intallations but not all. it is likely that evey factory in notrh america that survuved the blast is at skynets disposal and begins to mass produce terminaotrs.. the humans one by one over the years detroy some of the complexes, but many remain it is inly when thr humans win when the defensed grid was smashed when the final skynet installation fell and the humans win the war..so you see skynet must tak the form of a building as most pcs as well as 3 billion people lost thier lives and int he aftermathe skynet could no longer depend on the now non existant internet so it must protect rall remaining hardrives adn this threat,,,by the humans is part of the self preservation, the self awareness thy skynet possesses..if concludes that it is in danger adn that it must eliminate humans before the humans do the same. it will be a large installation at some point in the future.
Ithink she didn't want to be typecast..that one of the few things that can end your career as an actor..one is.. you suck, another is you have spoken out in some political cause that the mainstream does not support adnother is if you did what lee majors did and get e reputation as a hard bargainer in hollywood and oantoher is if you are typecast, thats one more reason not to pick somebody for a role...but she also didn't like the script nor the role she was going to play..as did james cameron....Fankly, i think neither one especiallya fter watching t3 have any regrets.
You dont remember?!
ALIC88: "the movie was good following something as good as terminator 2! t3 was never gonna b better than t2 but still I LOVED THE STORY! it is really sad that sarah conner aint in it, she could have terminated the t-x alone!"
And he created a tread called "awesome movie" (T3).
Now remember?