Originally posted by BOPRecruit 16
well, elvish and english can mean different things. i guess it's just different with some people's names. with mine, totally different letters from my real name.
I apologize, but that sentence made absolutely no sense to me at all. I mean no offence, but it just doesn't. The English name Brian is a Celtic word for Strong, the name Michael is phrase in Hebrew meaing "Who is like God?", and Worsham is, as I said, unknown to me of meaning and origin. I have in my possesion an Elvish Dictionary, and can therefore verify my claim.
In Elvish, Strong is Poldon, "Who is like God?" is Manveru, and I don't know about Worsham. However, The name-generator translates it into "Sharp-glance Star-stone Strong-flow."
In Elvish:
the name "Maeglin" means "Sharp-glance."
the name "Elensar" means "Star-stone."
the name 'Tulcakelume" means "Strong-flow."
In response to this, saying what you said is either out of ignorace or out of context. In English, my name could be translated "Strong Whoislikegod (whatever Worsham is)", because that has the same meaning in English that the original names have in their own languages.
I think you were just confused, and did not understand the context of my comment. "totally different letters from my real name" makes absolutely no sense, and it makes me think I'm talking to a Two-year-old who can't comprehend what I'm saying. I place the blame on myself, however, for I must have been unclear. This, I hope, will resolve that lack of proper communication, and allow you to understand what I said properly.
And Ushgarak, I know it's a pretty wierd complaint, but it's more like a comment, first of all. Second, it had to do both with the subject of the thread and the statement made in one of the posts. I posted that odd comment because someone had (in their post) told people to go to a site to get an Elvish name, when the site was, in fact, a fake. And, come to think of it, that Hobbit-name thing is a fake, too. the language of the Hobbits is that of the common-speech, and was therefore nothing special. So, if you actually want a Hobbit name, then you would want it in the actual language. For tolkien wrote the Lord of the Rings in a language other than that of English. He wrote it, in fact, in the languages of middle-earth. As was stated by Christopher Tolkien, there was never a Hobbit named Frodo. Frodo is just a translated name, just like the other names. The common-speech of Middle-earth is not English, it's Westron, and it is of Numenorean (Adunaic) origin.
It was your expectation that the Elvish name site would give what your name's roots in older languages were when directly translated into Elvish, that was pretty weird. That is almost certainly not the basis they were working on.
And the Hobbit name site could be using a language from a time long before the War of the Ring, when the Hobbits used their own adaptations of mannish tongues. As it is, though, the Hobbit name generator is more an amusement at Hobbit-type names.
So really... you being rather literal about this is a tad arrogant. The iste is not fake, it just does not to live up to what you want out of it.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It was your expectation that the Elvish name site would give what your name's roots in older languages were when directly translated into Elvish, that was pretty weird. That is almost certainly not the basis they were working on.And the Hobbit name site could be using a language from a time long before the War of the Ring, when the Hobbits used their own adaptations of mannish tongues. As it is, though, the Hobbit name generator is more an amusement at Hobbit-type names.
So really... you being rather literal about this is a tad arrogant. The iste is not fake, it just does not to live up to what you want out of it.
Maybe I was incorrect in assuming this Ushagarak, but I did think that a name generator that made names from the name you imput would make the name have the same meaning as yours. Perhaps I'm just not understanding the point correctly, but it makes no sense to me not to have the generated names have something to do with your name.
Therefore, I ask you this: What is the point of such a name generator?
It IS something to do with your name, it is just not a silly attempt to translate it, which would be futile as many English names cannot reasonably be translated to anything (I'm American, our names don't mean ****," as Bruce Willis tells us in Pulp Fiction), let alone trying to build that into a website.
It gives you an Elvish name based on what your own name is, not based on your own name's MEANING, if any. Simple enough. And many are happy with it.
Perhaps, but in what way does it use your name to make an Elvish one? That's what I don't understand. That's what is confusing me. I'm probably just not thinking clearly, but that's the only way that I see to make an Elvish name out of your name that makes any sense.
Oh, and by the way... This site translates many names into Elvish, (although you have to look your name up; it's not a generator), so take a look.
http://www.elvish.org/elm/names.html
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Perhaps, but in what way does it use your name to make an Elvish one? That's what I don't understand. That's what is confusing me. I'm probably just not thinking clearly, but that's the only way that I see to make an Elvish name out of your name that makes any sense.
Oh, and by the way... This site translates many names into Elvish, (although you have to look your name up; it's not a generator), so take a look.
http://www.elvish.org/elm/names.html
Not really
At least not Sindarin, Quenya, Telerin or Noldorin.
Mainly because of the "z" at the end, "ryk-" is also not really elven style
But imho it sounds more elvish than a lot of these generated names cuz they're usually total nonsense.
My real real name translated so Sindarin would be "Tarlancwen (or rather Tarlangwen, but that sounds strange...) Derencar (ok the grammar is weird... as in my real name 😛 )"
First name could also be Sáre/Sárie, Nilde, Mellon, Aurel, Tarias or, with the shortcut, Alassie 🙂