Does Anakin have a Father??

Started by finti4 pages

Well I like the idea of Anakin being a test tube baby. Maybe Shmi increased her value by having a baby. She just accepted the fact that she is a slave, and with a kid you increase your own value and get a better life as a slave.(not that there can be any kind off good life being a slave, but I think you all get my point here)

I wonder if the idea of genetic experiments and artificial implanting of the experimental fetus into women might be used.

Well honestly I believe he doesn't have a father. I believe that Lucas was using Anakin as a symbol of freedom in the film. Even though he does turn to Darth Vader, he still becomes good in Return of the Jedi. Remember Anakin's dream he told Jinn about. Well I believe that Lucas was thinking of Jesus. You know, a deliverer. Not saying Anakin is Christ and all, but the idea that in many ways Anakin saves many lives. So the only father he would have would have to be the power of the force, the chosen one.
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Yeah I agree. I think Lucas wanted something "other worldly". I don't think he's going to produce a daddy for Anakin. He wants something that goes beyond ration.. Unfortunately I think that he might have be a bit insecure with the whole situation and that's why he came up with the midis.

I don't know if any of you are reading the New Jedi Order series, but they appear to be gradually introducing a Galactic biological reasoning behind the Force that may re-introduce the MCs into SW EU.

I would prefer for AS to have a father, anything to draw away from that midi-chlorians/virgin birth bullshit but I doubt Lucas has the sense, maybe he's trying to set up another 'I am your father' scenario.

It is not a Virgin Birth scenario! With the MCs being the Will of the Force this is simply following a mythological base for a chosen one as you would find in any number of Greek or Roman legends; Anakin is the equivalent of the child of the Gods. Not a Christian influence in sight!

I think it works a lot better this way; as a child of the Force it explains the extreme power of the Skywalkers.

I still see the midi chlorians as George Lucas's failed attempt to explain the force to a spiritually dead audience, Anikin could still be the chosen one without having been 'conceived by the midi chlorians' in fact that makes him the created one not the chosen one.

But the MC have still CHOSEN him, how could you explain otherwise that a non-Forcer (Shmi, => doesn't know the truth behind Annies quick reflexes) can give birth to someone with the highest MC-count in history? 😕

He can inherit the force from his father. I guess Padme aint to strong with the force but Luke is. Kind off a little of the same problem there yerssot.

The Force can't be inherrited, why would they run along with that MC-reader if they can see how strong the perrants are?
So in principal the whole Yoda-clan is strong with the Force, but none of them sits in the JediCouncil (Yaddle isn't from the same family). What do you think?

"the force runs strong in your family" as yoda said, this gives us the idea that they can be inherited in some ways, but shimi wasnt force attuned?? so.. because anakin sprouted from the force then he is the beggining of force attuned people in his family and this is passed down to luke and leia 🙄

Got me there. (damn Yoda!)
But ... it can mean also that after Annakin, Luke was also a good Force-user and that his sister wasn't that bad + here children were also talented

Surely if Force-talent was normally inherited there would be far more Jedi than there are? I feel the Skywalkers are an exception here.

"The Emperor knew that if Skywalker were to have any offspring, they would be a threat to him..."

Why? Just because they would want revenge? Doubtful. The reason he feared Anakin's off-spring more than the children of, say, on of the Council members, is because he knew the Skywalkers were unique.

In the EU, *Watches Ush shudder* the Force is an inheritable trait.

Jaina, Jacen & Anakin and Corran Horn all spring to mind. True that the Solo children are of the Skywalker line but Horn isn't.

You all are so sick, I can´t stand it...
Sith-Witch, test tube baby, Father killed by Maul/Sidious...

He HASN´T a Father, ´cos the Midi-Chlorians got him birth, ´cos he is the CHOSEN ONE

Back to Padme..Some spy reports say that there is a scene with her and Yoda after the assasination attempt where Yoda actually does say something about the force being strong with her.. So apparently it's not just a Skywalker trait.

On the topic of Anakin's father. It's already been established that Shmi doesn't know what happened. I think it should be left as a mystery.. Not everything should be explained.

No everything shouldnt be explained, just like some other book they cant explain. And since they can explain it , lets make a religion of it you cant prove it`s right nor can you prove it`s wrong. I think GL should go a little easy on this MC, "virgin birth" thing/conceived by MC , even though this idea is chared by many mythologies, it still is just to weird of a happening.

There's no reason to assume that Shmi wasn't force attuned, is there? I mean, Yoda states that if Luke were to fail against the Emperor, there was another (presumably Leia) and she had no idea of her potential. Maybe some people carry the potential without it ever being realised? Or maybe by the time they're found, they're too old to start the training.
So, maybe the force does follow a family line (the Skywalker line) and maybe Shmi is sold in/by EPII by Watto to a group of people who, having heard of the exploits and repute of Anakin, have tracked her down and wish to 'experiment' on her to see if that line can be tempered.
My guess is that Shmi is bought from Watto (who, let's face it, needs the money now) by a group of investigators working on the Clone Armies who want to see if they can assertain from her why Anakin is so powerful and then genetically engineer Anakin's potential / power for their own troops. In the process Shmi is killed or assassinated by rivals who see threat of these investigations. On learning of his mothers death, Anakin investigates, uncovering a ghoulish sounding plot to build Clone Warriors, crusades against it and, low and behold, finds that the Jedi Council have been secretly funding / supporting the venture in recognition of the rising threat from Droid armies being build by Sideous.
Anakin's reaction is obvious - it was Jedi-Cloning that lead to his mothers death, the Jedi who supported the Cloning, so he's none too pleased. Instant reason to join the Dark Side, perhaps?

[ July 24, 2001: Message edited by: darthyogi ]

I think that experimenting on Shmi is a rumor. I heard that from the day TPM came out, BEFORE GL even begin making a script for EP II