Yoda's true power

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Darth_Glentract
I know this isn't a versus thread, but it has to do with something that could change a lot of versus battles.

Yoda is better than Sidious. You may think that he was beaten in the movie, but he was only hoping to distract him so Obi-wan could kill Anakin. The Jedi still served the Republic and if Sidious died then there would be a civil war. It even says tons of times that Palpatine was the only thing holding the Republic together.

Thankyou. That is all.

Darth L. Dipsit
It's been a while since we've talked. Did you read my response to your being offended back in that post where I asked for Fishy and the others? I sincerely apologized - you misinterpreted what I meant when I said that. Anyways, though, I think Yoda might have considered the political implications of his actions, but I also think that the odds were stacked against him, so the fight was not fair anyway.
As to your point, well, I think Yoda, if it came down to it, would prefer a civil war and a power struggle without Palpatine rather than the Empire. Truly, I think that the choice was the lesser of two evils. Or perhaps I misunderstand your thread?
All in all, it's good to be able to reply to your question, well-thought-out and articulate as it is.

Fishy
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I know this isn't a versus thread, but it has to do with something that could change a lot of versus battles.

Yoda is better than Sidious. You may think that he was beaten in the movie, but he was only hoping to distract him so Obi-wan could kill Anakin. The Jedi still served the Republic and if Sidious died then there would be a civil war. It even says tons of times that Palpatine was the only thing holding the Republic together.

Thankyou. That is all.

No... Yoda did not want to distract Palpatine, he couldn't fight anymore...

If you look closely at the fight Palpatine shoots away his lightsaber and then after that Yoda starts blocking his lightning, Yoda falls down a great distance and when he lands on the ground his lightsaber is right next to him. Yoda couldn't fight Sidious anymore because he had lost his lightsaber. And indeed he was more powerful then Sidious was, the reason he run was because he had lost his most vital tool for fightning and he could seriously never ever hope to win without it. Not when troopers were on their way.

The reason why Yoda didn't return to finish the job later on has to do with diplomacy and problems civil war and crap like that. Yoda didn't really want that.

Kun-ni Habeo
yoda falls cuz of the power in that lightning ball palpy falls too but hes a lot heavier and yoda is like 20kg,,,

Fishy
Palpy manages to hang on, Yoda doesn't... But that doesn't change a thing really... If Yoda would have had his lightsaber the fight would have continued and Yoda would have eventaully killed Palp when he couldn't run anymore.

Kun-ni Habeo
yes that's it fishy has got it,,lol

Lord_Windu
Yeah, Yoda is AT LEAST Sidious's equal.

Fishy
Personally I think both Yoda and Mace could have finished Sidious off.

In the fight between Mace and Sidious Mace is in complete control, Yoda is more powerful then Mace, and his control of the force is greater then that of Sidious. Sidious wants to run away from Yoda...

Yoda is incredibly powerful, possibly more powerful then even Anakin could have hoped to become.

Kun-ni Habeo
well anakin was soon to become the most powerfull but even in ROTS ani is not better then yoda

jackstain
Sidious is a lot more powerful than yoda, or else yoda would have won easily.

Kun-ni Habeo
if sids is a lot more powerful than yoda why didnt he won easily?

jackstain
he did win.

and was laughing the whole time.

Fishy
Originally posted by jackstain
Sidious is a lot more powerful than yoda, or else yoda would have won easily.

Sids did not win at all.

Yoda knew troopers were coming and ran away, his lightsaber had been destroyed, but he more then matched Sidious. He blocked Sidious his best and threw it right back in his face, Sidious had the advantage becuase of the location, thats the reason he even managed to stand against Yoda.

jackstain
you were obviously watching a different movie, because sidious won.

Kun-ni Habeo
no jack i already explained this yoda absorbed sids lightning and cuz of the power expplosiion caused yoda flew more than sids cuz sids is a lot heavier,,,pure fisics

Kun-ni Habeo
no jack i already explained this yoda absorbed sids lightning and cuz of the power explosion caused yoda flew more than sids cuz sids is a lot heavier,,,pure physics

Fishy
Originally posted by jackstain
you were obviously watching a different movie, because sidious won.

I watched the movie four times... Yoda won everytime, well he left everytime, because he got his lightsaber destroyed everytime, but he outclassed Sidious everytime

Lord_Windu
Both of those guys gave all they got and Yoda could counter everything Sidious threw at him. Sidious certainly isn't a lot more powerful than Yoda.

Fishy
He isn't. Sidious gave it his all, and Yoda reflected it. If he was hit then Sidious would have been more powerful, if they would have stood there for hours they would have been equal, Yoda didn't stand there for hours though he threw it back in his face... Palpatine is weaker, besides if he was stronger why run away?

SithKiller
Im beginning to think Sids was drunk...lol...the way he was dangling off that senate pod laughing his ass off....I said it another thread If I was dangling there and it was that far down I would have to be shit faced to be laughing like that

Gryn Jabar
The fact remains that Sidious out-thought, out fought and won the campaign.

Darth Mantis
Originally posted by Fishy
He isn't. Sidious gave it his all, and Yoda reflected it. If he was hit then Sidious would have been more powerful, if they would have stood there for hours they would have been equal, Yoda didn't stand there for hours though he threw it back in his face... Palpatine is weaker, besides if he was stronger why run away? Exactly, I think yoda is more powerful than sidious... Sidious gave it his all with the force lightning and yoda repelled it... Yoda is better...

Darth_Janus
Sidious is, to quote Wanderer, a one trick pony. He could not defeat Yoda on even terms, and I do not think the battle was in Yoda's favor, seeing as he had thirty year old sequels determining the outcome. MAce or Yoda could have defeated Sidious.

jackstain
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Gryn Jabar
What was that for?

Darth_Janus
A Jackstain rebuttal usually consists of the dreaded Darth Alf.

Lord Mader
Yoda lost his lightsaber and lost the end. But Yoda is stronger and he is 800 years old.. Cmon ppl

Kun-ni Habeo
agree

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