Stop the moon from rotating

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abhilegend
Which of the below characters can stop the moon accelerated by a warp drive like below from rotating by pure strength?

https://ibb.co/8BQZCSp
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Thing
Thor
Immortal Hulk
Gladiator
Thanos
Worldbreaker Hulk

lawest9
Don't know if any of them can match Cap's feat here, but that was a Superman worthy feat by Billy.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thing
Thor
Immortal Hulk
Gladiator
Thanos
Worldbreaker Hulk

We can't use Carver?

carver9
Iirc, didnt Hercules and an Xman (think it was sun spot) stop earth from spinning, and even mentioned Hulk could've done it? Stopping the earth from spinning (even if it was split in half by 2 people) >>>>> stopping the moon from spinning. All of them except Thing does it. Cry!!!

zopzop
Originally posted by carver9
Iirc, didnt Hercules and an Xman (think it was sun spot) stop earth from spinning, and even mentioned Hulk could've done it? Stopping the earth from spinning (even if it was split in half by 2 people) >>>>> stopping the moon from spinning. All of them except Thing does it. Cry!!!
Yup. It was Hercules and Sunspot (the former New Mutant). The Earth is like 4 times the size of the Moon or something so I'd bet either of those two could stop the moon from rotating. And if they can, then everyone on that list except Thing should be able to pull it off.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Iirc, didnt Hercules and an Xman (think it was sun spot) stop earth from spinning, and even mentioned Hulk could've done it? Stopping the earth from spinning (even if it was split in half by 2 people) >>>>> stopping the moon from spinning. All of them except Thing does it. Cry!!!
Stopping Earth's single rotation by Hercules, Jane Thor and Sunspot is vastly beneath what Cap did here, moon was rotating incredibly fast (doing rotation in seconds) and Cap stopped it alone.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Stopping Earth's single rotation by Hercules, Jane Thor and Sunspot is vastly beneath what Cap did here, moon was rotating incredibly fast (doing rotation in seconds) and Cap stopped it alone.

Thor strength had nothing to do with it and it was outright said that it's like holding up the world. Sunspot can do this ft by himself with one hand.

https://ibb.co/WK25SRc

They literally stopped the rotation of the earth. All Thor did was power the machine. Lol at you trying to overhype a showing like this. Sad an xman can achieve better results without straining.

steverules_2
Does Abhi like any marvel characters or is he completely anti marvel?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by zopzop
Yup. It was Hercules and Sunspot (the former New Mutant). The Earth is like 4 times the size of the Moon or something so I'd bet either of those two could stop the moon from rotating. And if they can, then everyone on that list except Thing should be able to pull it off.

The Earth has ~80 times the mass of the Moon.

The Earth is also rotating at ~30x the speed of the Moon,normally.

Momentum = mass x velocity.

So in short, if the Moon was rotating ~240 times faster than it normally does, then the Moon feat is more impressive, all things being equal.

Now we know it normally takes ~30 days to do 1 rotation (i.e. a month). Speeding this up by 240x, means it would take 3 hours to do one rotation.

It obviously was much faster than 240x, which means it had more momentum than a 'normal' Earth, a lot more.

So Hercules and Sunspot, combined, didn't do as impressive a feat as Billy.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by steverules_2
Does Abhi like any marvel characters or is he completely anti marvel?

Completely anti-marvel.

He hopes Superman one day will enter our world and save India from China and Pakistan.

But Supes is a 100% MAGA Trump zombie, he only cares about 'Murica.

abhilegend
Originally posted by zopzop
Yup. It was Hercules and Sunspot (the former New Mutant). The Earth is like 4 times the size of the Moon or something so I'd bet either of those two could stop the moon from rotating. And if they can, then everyone on that list except Thing should be able to pull it off.
laughing out loudOriginally posted by carver9
Thor strength had nothing to do with it and it was outright said that it's like holding up the world. Sunspot can do this ft by himself with one hand.

https://ibb.co/WK25SRc

They literally stopped the rotation of the earth. All Thor did was power the machine. Lol at you trying to overhype a showing like this. Sad an xman can achieve better results without straining.
They were struggling carvster, hence Jane needed to help them.

https://i.postimg.cc/HkXQdr6M/image.jpg

It was a single rotation too.

Thinkerer
Squirrel Girl could do this with all the squirrels on Earth, word up.

Smurph
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The Earth has ~80 times the mass of the Moon.

The Earth is also rotating at ~30x the speed of the Moon,normally.

Momentum = mass x velocity.

So in short, if the Moon was rotating ~240 times faster than it normally does, then the Moon feat is more impressive, all things being equal.

Now we know it normally takes ~30 days to do 1 rotation (i.e. a month). Speeding this up by 240x, means it would take 3 hours to do one rotation.

It obviously was much faster than 240x, which means it had more momentum than a 'normal' Earth, a lot more.

So Hercules and Sunspot, combined, didn't do as impressive a feat as Billy. How much of a difference does Billy's flight speed make in this scenario?

Legitimate question, I'm no physicist.

DarkSaint85
Like.....it should be the entirety of the feat, imo.

He has to brace against *something* when stopping the Moon. You can't just press down whilst in midair if you don't have flight abilities.

MrMind
yeah how can anyone argue the thor/hercules/x-men feat better than the shazam one is beyond me

1. it was a shared feat
2. they only stopped a single rotation of earth
3. like darksaint said the moon was much faster than 240 times than normal

also carver is retarded

h1a8
Originally posted by zopzop
Yup. It was Hercules and Sunspot (the former New Mutant). The Earth is like 4 times the size of the Moon or something so I'd bet either of those two could stop the moon from rotating. And if they can, then everyone on that list except Thing should be able to pull it off.

I easily debated against that feat a while ago. It is Unquantifiable at best.
1. They didn't directly stop he Earth from rotating, but rather, they stopped the machine that was magically causing the Earth to rotate.
2. Assuming a direct connection, We don't know where the machine was applying the force to Earth (i.e the length of the level arm). We can obtain many different answers depending on where the force was being applied to the Earth.

But it's not necessary

1. Characters don't share feats
2. Why would Thor = Herc + unleased Sun spot, why is Gladiator and the others = the same?
3. Moon was rotating possibly far faster than the Earth (looks like more than 7 times a second from the illustration).
4. WBH can't fly.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Like.....it should be the entirety of the feat, imo.

He has to brace against *something* when stopping the Moon. You can't just press down whilst in midair if you don't have flight abilities.

Billy is all about magic, though.

It doesn't need to make sense, not with him involved.

Smurph
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Like.....it should be the entirety of the feat, imo.

He has to brace against *something* when stopping the Moon. You can't just press down whilst in midair if you don't have flight abilities. Yeah. This question always confuses me when it comes to mid-flight strength feats.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Billy is all about magic, though.

It doesn't need to make sense, not with him involved.

They even call this out in the comic. He starts talking in space and they acknowledge he's magic

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Smurph
Yeah. This question always confuses me when it comes to mid-flight strength feats.

If comic writers really took it into account, every character that doesn't have flight is getting uppercutted into the atmosphere.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They even call this out in the comic. He starts talking in space and they acknowledge he's magic

Yes, I know.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If comic writers really took it into account, every character that doesn't have flight is getting uppercutted into the atmosphere.

They often use the "bracing for impact" explanation... which might be fine with low metas such as Spiderpussy and Venompussy... but with heavy hitter bricks it's not so convincing... almost as if they all generated a personal gravity field like Blob or something.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud
They were struggling carvster, hence Jane needed to help them.

https://i.postimg.cc/HkXQdr6M/image.jpg

It was a single rotation too.

She joined in AFTER they've already stopped it. I never said it was easy.

Smurph
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If comic writers really took it into account, every character that doesn't have flight is getting uppercutted into the atmosphere. Yeah, comic physics are wonky, but I don't know that that means that Billy's propulsion isn't taken into account in this feat.

Is it a great feat? Sure.

Is it pure strength? Less sure.

But again, parsing comic physics isn't my thing so... whatever.

Diesldude

StiltmanFTW
https://i.ibb.co/V9SJHVf/2016-03-25-batman-v-superman.jpg

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
She joined in AFTER they've already stopped it. I never said it was easy.
They didn't stop anything carvster, they were steadying the rotation and it proved too much for them.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Sunspot can do this ft by himself with one hand.

Sad an xman can achieve better results without straining.

Never said it was easy? Lol.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They often use the "bracing for impact" explanation... which might be fine with low metas such as Spiderpussy and Venompussy... but with heavy hitter bricks it's not so convincing... almost as if they all generated a personal gravity field like Blob or something.

Yeah, even the bracing makes no sense once you really think about it. To cancel out the upwards force, they'd have to create a downward force at least equal to the punch.

So their chins are actually being hit by a fist at 2x the fist's speed. Like running headfirst into a car traveling at 5mph.....

Parmaniac
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, even the bracing makes no sense once you really think about it. To cancel out the upwards force, they'd have to create a downward force at least equal to the punch. Spider-Man begs to differ flirt

DarkSaint85
That's different. I've tried to uppercut spiders all the time; they just stick to my fist and then scurry up my arm.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, even the bracing makes no sense once you really think about it. To cancel out the upwards force, they'd have to create a downward force at least equal to the punch.

So their chins are actually being hit by a fist at 2x the fist's speed. Like running headfirst into a car traveling at 5mph.....

thumb up

Similar problem with the rolling with the punches bs.

I mean, sure, that one works irl - but in comics, we're often dealing with superhuman attacks and even a glancing blow should be devastating... if not fatal.

Parmaniac
Just roll with Saitama's punch.

NemeBro
Originally posted by Smurph
Yeah, comic physics are wonky, but I don't know that that means that Billy's propulsion isn't taken into account in this feat.

Is it a great feat? Sure.

Is it pure strength? Less sure.

But again, parsing comic physics isn't my thing so... whatever. You're thinking about it the wrong way.

Does Billy have the physical strength/power to handle forces equivalent to this feat? Yes, because his body was still the lever he used to stop the moon's rotation. He still had the physical toughness to not be liquified by the forces kinetic energy he was counteracting and the strength to physically keep his arms braced while doing it.

The flight basically gives him the leverage to attempt the feat at all. If he didn't have the prerequisite strength to do it he would splatter against the moon or at least basically bounce with his arms flailing against the moon uselessly if his body was durable enough to withstand the impact.

Of course the feat should still be impossible because even if he had the strength and toughness as well as the flight his arms would basically just rip through the surface of the moon when he touches them lol, because what his hand is holding with give way well before the rotation of the moon is stopped. Comics and magic though.

Even for comics though I can't imagine any non-gag character doing this feat if they don't have flight, specifically flight of the Superman variety where they can mentally anchor themselves in place as opposed to wing or propulsion-based flight.

carver9
Cho Hulk can stop the light speed twirling moon with his pinky...

https://ibb.co/fMBrFVF

MrMind
laughing out loud oh carver you ignorant buffoon

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Cho Hulk can stop the light speed twirling moon with his pinky...

https://ibb.co/fMBrFVF
laughing out loud

carver9
Originally posted by MrMind
laughing out loud oh carver you ignorant buffoon

Is this ft not superior?

abhilegend
No

carver9
Why not

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Why not
Because a writer **** up isn't a feat carvster

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Is this ft not superior? Because he didn't even do much damage to the moon.

The writer assumed richter scale was directly proportional to the strength of the earthquake (not exponential). For example,he would assume that 10 on the richter scale is twice as powerful as 5 on the richter scale.That was his intent. If he actually knew the math of the richter scale then we would put in the appropriate amount to achieve his original intent.

DarkSaint85
Cho isn't even on the list. Nor are Sunspot and Hercules.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because a writer **** up isn't a feat carvster


What made him mess up the scene? In a comic book?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
What made him mess up the scene? In a comic book?

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk isn't in this thread. Stay on topic
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk isn't in this thread. Stay in topic.

Is Cho in this thread?

carver9
Hulk and Cho fought and Hulk is stronger than Cho. So he doesn't need to be.

tkitna
Shouldn't any planet buster be able to do it?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk and Cho fought and Hulk is stronger than Cho. So he doesn't need to be.

Nice nice, I shall remember this line of reasoning smile

When did Hulk ever output the equivalent of Cho's punch? Scans. I want to see more than 123 on the Richter scale.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nice nice, I shall remember this line of reasoning smile

When did Hulk ever output the equivalent of Cho's punch? Scans. I want to see more than 123 on the Richter scale.

Are you asking me when did Hulk match his own punching power (since Hulk did steal Hulks power)?

MrMind
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Is Cho in this thread?

carver been owning himself since his existence

carver9
Originally posted by carver9
Are you asking me when did Hulk match his own punching power (since Hulk did steal Hulks power)?

Meant to say since CHO stole Hulk powers.

StiltmanFTW
Hulk is Hulk.

MrMind
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hulk is Hulk.

hulk is hulk but no asian hulk

StiltmanFTW
Are you implying that carver (and perhaps BLM as a whole) is racist?

Or merely remembering the glory days of KMC with asian hulk onboard?

Or a little bit of both? big grin

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
What made him mess up the scene? In a comic book?
Yes

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because a writer **** up isn't a feat carvster

To be fair now, Superman feats don't make any sense, either.

You can't cherrypick, either embrace the goofiness as a whole or don't laughing out loud

MrMind
no only marvel fanboys are the goofy ones

us dc guys appreciate intellectual writing.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes


Lol... then you might as well exclude all fts, including this one where a moon is spinning without damage.

Juntai

DarkSaint85

Juntai
I was meaning in the pure sense of 123 on the richter would be enough energy to wipe out the universe like 50 times and a billion decibels would collapse the omniverse. Stupid comic writer numbers.

h1a8
The writer's (who suck at science and math) assumes a linear proportional scale, not a logarithmic one. That's clearly their intent.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Juntai
I was meaning in the pure sense of 123 on the richter would be enough energy to wipe out the universe like 50 times and a billion decibels would collapse the omniverse. Stupid comic writer numbers.

Oh i completely agree with you. Comic writers have zero scientific knowledge sometimes.

It IS waid, after all.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by MrMind
no only marvel fanboys are the goofy ones

us dc guys appreciate intellectual writing.

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abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... then you might as well exclude all fts, including this one where a moon is spinning without damage.
You're retarded

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh i completely agree with you. Comic writers have zero scientific knowledge sometimes.

It IS waid, after all.

Average American writer believes United States to be bigger than the entire omniverse.

Because 'Murica.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No.

I am asking for a scan where Hulk (Banner) specifically exceeds (since you said Banner is stronger) Cho's strength, where Cho is explicitly outputting at least 123.2 Richter scales worth of energy. If you don't have that, then I can easily argue either Cho:

A. Was holding back, consciously or subconsciously; or
B. Cho punching the moon was PIS.



Not quite. Because Cyborg has done it multiple times, despite being a C-lister in DC. Cho's only done it once - not very consistent.
Carver, hello!

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No.

I am asking for a scan where Hulk (Banner) specifically exceeds (since you said Banner is stronger) Cho's strength, where Cho is explicitly outputting at least 123.2 Richter scales worth of energy. If you don't have that, then I can easily argue either Cho:

A. Was holding back, consciously or subconsciously; or
B. Cho punching the moon was PIS.



Not quite. Because Cyborg has done it multiple times, despite being a C-lister in DC. Cho's only done it once - not very consistent.

I dont have to provide a scan since Cho, one of the smartest beings on the planet, knows Banner Hulk is stronger.

Also, when did you start caring about consistency? You've used a single showing on multiple of occasions to justify a person(s) power level. How fast is Magik, again?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
I dont have to provide a scan since Cho, one of the smartest beings on the planet, knows Banner Hulk is stronger.

Also, when did you start caring about consistency? You've used a single showing on multiple of occasions to justify a person(s) power level. How fast is Magik, again?

And heralds know that Batman is the most dangerous man alive, and that he always wins smile

Ever since you started putting random numbers on numbers of showings lmao. Ever since you showed your bias and double standards with Cyborg lol.

But you have no scans? No proof? Trolling, then

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