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MJJ runs the guantlets. First one as he is currently displayed, 2nd gauntlet to full potential.

1. Dr. Strange and Dr. Fate (they get 3 days prep)
2. Dr. Strangefate ( he gets a week Prep)
3. The Entire Watchers Host
4. All of the Guardians
5. Exitar the Celestial
6. The JLA one Million
7. The Infinites
8. Classic Ion
9. Thanos with the IG
10. Batmite
11. Wanda HOM
12. Pre retconned Molecule Man
13. Pre Retconned Beyonder
14. Mr. Mxy
15. The Ultimator
16. The Word
17. The LT
18. Michael
19. Thanos Heart of The Universe
20. The Merged Source Spectre

Why the HELL is Full Powered Spectre above THOTU?

Otherwise speaking, he stops at the infinites in current form, and Batmite at full potential.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Why the HELL is Full Powered Spectre above THOTU?

Otherwise speaking, he stops at the infinites in current form, and Batmite at full potential.

Um full powered spectre is the spectre who is in god's graces. Spectre Merged with the source is beyond full powered spectre. That is why. The source alone is a match for the Heart. Adding Spectre's own power puts it higher on the list.

It doesn't really matter he is never getting to that!

Around Thanos he is beginning to have trouble (maked a thread about that battle)

And then Pre-recton MM will stop him. so 12 this is full potential in normal he will stop at the infinites.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um full powered spectre is the spectre who is in god's graces. Spectre Merged with the source is beyond full powered spectre. That is why. The source alone is a match for the Heart. Adding Spectre's own power puts it higher on the list.
So Full Power Spectre isn't his most powerful incarnation? It's not his full power?

Then why the hell is it called FULL POWER SPECTRE?

THotu punked LT so spectre should be lower

Originally posted by King Kandy
So Full Power Spectre isn't his most powerful incarnation? It's not his full power?

Then why the hell is it called FULL POWER SPECTRE?
NO, Full powered Spectre is when he has a Host and when he is in the will of God. He is at full power then. Even then, The source and michael are still far above him. When he merges with the source, he is beyond Even Michael. Merged Spectre is above full powered Spectre. The LT would be like that if he merged with the Heart of the U. He would be above his normal full powered Self.

The Spectre fused with the Source is not stronger than THOTI, other than that, yeah, he should get around Batmite in the second round.

Aunt May with THOTI rapes the Spectre.

Originally posted by Bentley
The Spectre fused with the Source is not stronger than THOTI, other than that, yeah, he should get around Batmite in the second round.

LOL, The Source is a match for The Heart on it's own. The Spectre Fusing with it was basically God. I dont' know enough about MJJ to know where he stops other than I think he stops at Pre retconned Molecule man. But I could be wrong.

Which is basically what the heart was in the first place.

Originally posted by Bentley
Which is basically what the heart was in the first place.

The Heart is only the power. The spectre has the cosmic senses along with it. He says so. He was connected to everything. he knew everything. So he had the power and the knowlege.

Which still pales compared to the power of the actual DC god. In any case, the merged Spectre would not be able to put down Thanos with the Heart, battles between such powers aren't even predictable.

Originally posted by Bentley
Which still pales compared to the power of the actual DC god. In any case, the merged Spectre would not be able to put down Thanos with the Heart, battles between such powers aren't even predictable.

I believe that he would. The source alone would be a match for Thanos. Thanos wouldn't have the power to put down the Source. Merging with a full powered Spectre would make it higher on the food chain to me. Now give the Heart to the LT and it would be a great battle. The LT would be so much more optimal with that power.

You could give THOTU to 6 year old and it could use it as effectivly as Thanos. It's not that hard.

Thats really just a weird "add to infinitum logic", limited boosts aren't going to improve the power of god. You can have 115 abstracts, each having a single skill paired with god's and you would still fail to improve the power set because too much of god is missing.

Its like standing on a table to be closer to the sun: The difference doesn't matter.

Originally posted by King Kandy
You could give THOTU to 6 year old and it could use it as effectivly as Thanos. It's not that hard.

Thanos got pwned by God's infinite wisdom. The LT is infinitely wise. The LT in his hands would be much better used.

Thanos was pwned because god cannot be defeated, it was not just wisdom, there are way too many qualities that make god more capable than Thanos.

Originally posted by Bentley
Thanos was pwned because god cannot be defeated, it was not just wisdom, there are way too many qualities that make god more capable than Thanos.

Yeah and What ever thanos is, The LT is infinitely better at all of it. So The LT with the heart would be like the spectre merged. To me anyway.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thanos got pwned by God's infinite wisdom. The LT is infinitely wise. The LT in his hands would be much better used.
Thanos got pwned because he did something stupid and got locked into doing what TOAA wanted.

It had nothing to do with his competency with THOTU.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Thanos got pwned because he did something stupid and got locked into doing what TOAA wanted.

It had nothing to do with his competency with THOTU.

NO, it had to do with his limited wisdom.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO, it had to do with his limited wisdom.
Yeah....

Unfortuatly I don't think MJJ's going to be trying to put LT/Thanos into a complicated pholosophical dilema, so it's irrelevant.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah....

Unfortuatly I don't think MJJ's going to be trying to put LT/Thanos into a complicated pholosophical dilema, so it's irrelevant.

Yeah. But I was under the impression that MJJ was a threat to the omniverse and unable to be wiped out. Just making a guantlet to see where he fits in the scheme of Things.

The Infinites may stop a normal Jaspers or may not.

We know One Infinite is greater than any sinlge Universe, and we know the essence of One Infinite can remake countless Worlds across the Multiverse.

It's safe to assume that Two Infinites makes a power couple, but even all their power would keep them Below Multi-Eternity. (because they work for the Multiverse)


NOW,


Matrix empowered Merlyn said he couldn't stop Jaspers, (he could've been lying)

But if he was not,

put this in perspective:



Merlyn created Otherworld (a Universe that's like a Multiverse)

Merlyn created the Starlight Citidel located in Otherworld, the Citidel's defenses can erase Universes.

The Citidel is so vast inside that just the Hall can fit entire Planets, deeper inside and Countless Dimensions/Universes are housed.

Merlyn created the Celestial Nullifier located within the Citidel, as we know the CN can erase any Universe in the Omniverse.

Merlyn allowed Captain Britain and the members of Excalibur to draw on power from the Energy Matrix (the main source of Merlyn's power) with it, Brian was able to actually Reverse a Multiversal collapse while it was taking place.


And the big daddy:

Merlyn was using the 616 Multiverse as his plaything through a game of Chess during a training session for Roma to become Omniversal Guardian.

And he seemingly had Other Chess Boards/Multiverses I'm assuming floating around his Realm.




Now we can gauge Jaspers a bit more accurately I hope.


IMO - if what Merlyn said is true,

Normal Jaspers stops at Pre-retcon Molecule Man

If Merlyn was lying,

Normal Jaspers stops stalemates the IG.



Now Full Potential Jaspers?

Nothing short of LT in Marvel can stop him.

Havok (merged with the Nexus of Realities) possibly stalemates him.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl

9. Thanos with the IG
10. Batmite
11. Wanda HOM
12. Pre retconned Molecule Man
13. Pre Retconned Beyonder
14. Mr. Mxy
15. The Ultimator
16. The Word
17. The LT
18. Michael
19. Thanos Heart of The Universe
20. The Merged Source Spectre

Concerning Marvel,

it should read like this:

Thanos IG/Wanda (no control)
Wanda (control)
LT
Pre-retcon MM
Pre-retcon Beyonder
THOTI

Originally posted by Mr Master
Concerning Marvel,

it should read like this:

Thanos IG/Wanda (no control)
Wanda (control)
LT
Pre-retcon MM
Pre-retcon Beyonder
THOTI

That is not my opinion. Pre retconned Molecule man was multiversal. The Current LT is omniversal. Nothing short of the heart, in marvel or LT's own powers, should be of any threat to him. Classic beyonder could never wipe away the Omniverse. The LT could if it was in TOAA's plan.

Originally posted by xmeat
THotu punked LT so spectre should be lower

The Heart of the Infinite doesn't exist. Who got punked? Thanos did. LT represents the TOAA. I know how this thread will end. Xmeat, if u want to reply, private message me. Guy222

Originally posted by Mr Master
The Infinites may stop a normal Jaspers or may not.

We know One Infinite is greater than any sinlge Universe, and we know the essence of One Infinite can remake countless Worlds across the Multiverse.

It's safe to assume that Two Infinites makes a power couple, but even all their power would keep them Below Multi-Eternity. (because they work for the Multiverse)


NOW,


Matrix empowered Merlyn said he couldn't stop Jaspers, (he could've been lying)

But if he was not,

put this in perspective:



Merlyn created Otherworld (a Universe that's like a Multiverse)

Merlyn created the Starlight Citidel located in Otherworld, the Citidel's defenses can erase Universes.

The Citidel is so vast inside that just the Hall can fit entire Planets, deeper inside and Countless Dimensions/Universes are housed.

Merlyn created the Celestial Nullifier located within the Citidel, as we know the CN can erase any Universe in the Omniverse.

Merlyn allowed Captain Britain and the members of Excalibur to draw on power from the Energy Matrix (the main source of Merlyn's power) with it, Brian was able to actually Reverse a Multiversal collapse while it was taking place.


And the big daddy:

Merlyn was using the 616 Multiverse as his plaything through a game of Chess during a training session for Roma to become Omniversal Guardian.

And he seemingly had Other Chess Boards/Multiverses I'm assuming floating around his Realm.




Now we can gauge Jaspers a bit more accurately I hope.


IMO - if what Merlyn said is true,

Normal Jaspers stops at Pre-retcon Molecule Man

If Merlyn was lying,

Normal Jaspers stops stalemates the IG.



Now Full Potential Jaspers?

Nothing short of LT in Marvel can stop him.

Havok (merged with the Nexus of Realities) possibly stalemates him.

Put in perspective, analysed, discussed, conclusion:

In some way I believe Merlyn MAY have twisted the truth a little, if this power was at his disposal he should be capable of defeating MJJ himself he didn't but he could my reason for saying that Merlyn didn't choose to act is: Merlyn showed a potion of Omniscience in sending Captain Britain to 258 to battle MJJ and fury there knowing that CB would be killed and Fury would then follow him, he had it all planned in my openion. Merlyn works a little like LT, he preferes to let other do the dirty work, even though he easily posesses the power to do something about it himself.

P.S. You don't believe that Normal MJJ could only be beaten by Pre retcon-MM, since you later say that Only LT can stop full potential MJJ.

1. Dr. Strange and Dr. Fate (they get 3 days prep) - MJJ
2. Dr. Strangefate ( he gets a week Prep) - MJJ
3. The Entire Watchers Host - MJJ
4. All of the Guardians - MJJ
5. Exitar the Celestial - MJJ
6. The JLA one Million - MJJ
7. The Infinites - MJJ
8. Classic Ion - MJJ
9. Thanos with the IG - MJJ
10. Batmite - MJJ
11. Wanda HOM - MJJ, as long as she dont generate the Chaos Wave
12. Pre retconned Molecule Man - Molecule man smites him
13. Pre Retconned Beyonder - Beyonder smites him as well
14. Mr. Mxy - MJJ
15. The Ultimator - MJJ
16. The Word - The World
17. The LT - LT
18. Michael - Good call, Michael isnt stronger than the original Spectre, Spectre only lost because God didnt want him in heaven.
19. Thanos Heart of The Universe - Thanos Slaps him
20. The Merged Source Spectre - Spectre

Originally posted by Mr Master
Concerning Marvel,

it should read like this:

Thanos IG/Wanda (no control)
Wanda (control)
LT
Pre-retcon MM
Pre-retcon Beyonder
THOTI
There is a chanse that Beyonder would also possess the supreme power, after all he represented the editor-in-chef Jim Shooter, that's was the 80's Stan Lee.
Beyonder was as powerful as he wanted to be, I'd say he equals the power of the Heart.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
1. Dr. Strange and Dr. Fate (they get 3 days prep) - MJJ
2. Dr. Strangefate ( he gets a week Prep) - MJJ
3. The Entire Watchers Host - MJJ
4. All of the Guardians - MJJ
5. Exitar the Celestial - MJJ
6. The JLA one Million - MJJ
7. The Infinites - MJJ
8. Classic Ion - MJJ
9. Thanos with the IG - MJJ
10. Batmite - MJJ
11. Wanda HOM - MJJ, as long as she dont generate the Chaos Wave
12. Pre retconned Molecule Man - Molecule man smites him
13. Pre Retconned Beyonder - Beyonder smites him as well
14. Mr. Mxy - MJJ
15. The Ultimator - MJJ
16. The Word - The World
17. The LT - LT
18. Michael - Good call, Michael isnt stronger than the original Spectre, Spectre only lost because God didnt want him in heaven.
19. Thanos Heart of The Universe - Thanos Slaps him
20. The Merged Source Spectre - Spectre

I suppose you are talking about full power MJJ and not "just" normal MJJ because Normal MJJ wouldn't get past Thanos W/IG now Full powered MJJ warping the entire omniverse another story will say about Pre ret MM and doesn't get past thats the idea with a gauntlet he isn't gonna fight 14 and 15 if he lost to 12 and 13, don't know enough about ultimator ore Mr Mxy but we can agree that they should have been below the pre retconned.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That is not my opinion. Pre retconned Molecule man was multiversal. The Current LT is omniversal. Nothing short of the heart, in marvel or LT's own powers, should be of any threat to him.

Wut up nvr.

Respectfully I must disagree.


MM was "Multiversal" because there was no Omniverse in continuity back then.


The exact meaning of Omniverse is: All the Universes in whatever Company.

So, when we put it in that context, the Multiverse in 85' was the Omniverse, because the Multiverse was All the Universes in Marvel's continuity.

Thus the Multiverse was All the Universes and so the Omniverse is the same,

since Omniverse simply means All Universes.


The only difference now is the Omniverse was expanded from One Multiverse, to countless Multiverses.


But we mustn't forget the Cosmic Hierarchy concerning Concepts is exactly the same Now, as it was back in 1985.

AND, we mustn't forget that there is only ONE Multi-Eternity,

and only the 616 Multiverse possesses this Hierarchy.

In other words, Outside the Prime Multiverse there are no Eternity's, Lord Chaos, Master Orders or any of the rest.

Only the retconned Brothers are sentient Concepts Outside the Prime Multiverse.



Many don't know this but it's a fact.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Classic beyonder could never wipe away the Omniverse. The LT could if it was in TOAA's plan.

I'm sure LT could if he needed to, but Beyonder was created to be more powerful.

Remember Beyonder took over the Prime Multiverse, he made it his essentially.

Plus Beyonder was everything Outside the 616 Multiverse,

Now all that space is occupied by the rest of the Omniverse.


This tells us, Beyonder was what the Omniverse is Now, minus One Multiverse.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Wut up nvr.

Respectfully I must disagree.


MM was "Multiversal" because there was no Omniverse in continuity back then.


The exact meaning of Omniverse is: All the Universes in whatever Company.

So, when we put it in that context, the Multiverse in 85' was the Omniverse, because the Multiverse was All the Universes in Marvel's continuity.

Thus the Multiverse was All the Universes and so the Omniverse is the same,

since Omniverse simply means All Universes.


The only difference now is the Omniverse was expanded from One Multiverse, to countless Multiverses.


But we mustn't forget the Cosmic Hierarchy concerning Concepts is exactly the same Now, as it was back in 1985.

AND, we mustn't forget that there is only ONE Multi-Eternity,

and only the 616 Multiverse possesses this Hierarchy.

In other words, Outside the Prime Multiverse there are no Eternity's, Lord Chaos, Master Orders or any of the rest.

Only the retconned Brothers are sentient Concepts Outside the Prime Multiverse.



Many don't know this but it's a fact.



I'm sure LT could if he needed to, but Beyonder was created to be more powerful.

Remember Beyonder took over the Prime Multiverse, he made it his essentially.

Plus Beyonder was everything Outside the 616 Multiverse,

Now all that space is occupied by the rest of the Omniverse.


This tells us, Beyonder was what the Omniverse is Now, minus One Multiverse.

And the beyonder wasn't the most powerful of all the Marvel multiverses. The LT Has Dominion over everything the beyonder was PLUS the Prime Marvel Multiverse. In my opinion The Current LT is supreme to pre retconned Beyonder. We must disagree and leave it at that.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I suppose you are talking about full power MJJ and not "just" normal MJJ because Normal MJJ wouldn't get past Thanos W/IG now Full powered MJJ warping the entire omniverse another story will say about Pre ret MM and doesn't get past thats the idea with a gauntlet he isn't gonna fight 14 and 15 if he lost to 12 and 13, don't know enough about ultimator ore Mr Mxy but we can agree that they should have been below the pre retconned.
NO. Mxy has done more on panel than either of the pre retconned MM or Beyonder. And the Ultimator is vasty superior to mxy.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. Mxy has done more on panel than either of the pre retconned MM or Beyonder. And the Ultimator is vasty superior to mxy.

We are not just talking on panel buddy we are also talking what they are capable of doing, A blast from Pre-retcon Beyonder was shaking the entire Multiverse The entire Marvel universe at that time, it isn't gonna be bigger that would be the omniverse today and on top of that Beyonder says that he put restrictions on himself, THAT is power. I am not doubting that Mr Mxy is strong and Ultimator to but in my view they isn't stronger then Pre MM ore Beyonder. But you thread and you decided the line of the gauntlet but I still have the right to disagree

Originally posted by Utrigita
We are not just talking on panel buddy we are also talking what they are capable of doing, A blast from Pre-retcon Beyonder was shaking the entire Multiverse The entire Marvel universe at that time, it isn't gonna be bigger that would be the omniverse today and on top of that Beyonder says that he put restrictions on himself, THAT is power. I am not doubting that Mr Mxy is strong and Ultimator to but in my view they isn't stronger then Pre MM ore Beyonder. But you thread and you decided the line of the gauntlet but I still have the right to disagree

There isn't a cap on Mxy's power as far as I know. He was able to ***** the Spectre at full power. He also wiped away several DC multiverses and the higher dimensions of the 4th and 5th. And then he simply put it all back. So how did you come up with your limits on mxy's powers? from where i"m sitting the only limit he's ever had was killing himself ( which is impossible for him to be killed) and Out right beating the Ultimator. But he was the only imp who faced the Ultimator who took a full on blast and survived.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There isn't a cap on Mxy's power as far as I know. He was able to ***** the Spectre at full power. He also wiped away several DC multiverses and the higher dimensions of the 4th and 5th. And then he simply put it all back. So how did you come up with your limits on mxy's powers? from where i"m sitting the only limit he's ever had was killing himself ( which is impossible for him to be killed) and Out right beating the Ultimator. But he was the only imp who faced the Ultimator who took a full on blast and survived.

Yes he cannot do anything to the above dimensions 6 and so one i believe it is 52 ore so there is now. Plus you logic doesn't fit you said earlier that Ultimator was vastly superior to Mr Mxy put now you say that he pwnd him that doesn't make sense.

You also say that Mr Mxy kicked around spectre at full power is that the spectre that is the last obstical for MJJ to pass that doesn't make sense neither, Mr Mxy and Ultimator should have been there, as you say yourself because Mxy>Ultimator>full powered Spectre. Maybe you should change it a littled.

Can you come up with limits on Beyonder? Yes because he put them on himself If he hadn't done that then there would have been no restrictions on him and the entire multiverse (that would be omniverse today) would be his toy to play with. I am beginning to build up a confusing list of power.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Yes he cannot do anything to the above dimensions 6 and so one i believe it is 52 ore so there is now. Plus you logic doesn't fit you said earlier that Ultimator was vastly superior to Mr Mxy put now you say that he pwnd him that doesn't make sense.

You also say that Mr Mxy kicked around spectre at full power is that the spectre that is the last obstical for MJJ to pass that doesn't make sense neither, Mr Mxy and Ultimator should have been there, as you say yourself because Mxy>Ultimator>full powered Spectre. Maybe you should change it a littled.

Can you come up with limits on Beyonder? Yes because he put them on himself If he hadn't done that then there would have been no restrictions on him and the entire multiverse (that would be omniverse today) would be his toy to play with. I am beginning to build up a confusing list of power.

Nah. Spectre if he wants to, pwns mxy by going around mxy's power. He simply depowers him. SOmetimes spectre acts like god's wrath and tries to fight and gets a joke played on him. mxy is kinda a funny creature. I don't know if mxy's powers are limited to the 5th. And i never said mxy pwned the ultimator. I said mxy was the only one who survived a blast from mxy. And I already know the limits of the beyonder. He was millions of times more powerful than the marvel multiverse of the 80's. There is your limit.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. Mxy has done more on panel than either of the pre retconned MM or Beyonder. And the Ultimator is vasty superior to mxy.
And the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th dimension don't exist anymore, since Ultimator have absorbed them, obviously Mxyztplk was shitting Superman.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
And the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th dimension don't exist anymore, since Ultimator have absorbed them, obviously Mxyztplk was shitting Superman.

NO. The Ultimator was the Tength dimension. The 9th, 8th, 7th, and 6th don't exist. The higher ones still do.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He was millions of times more powerful than the marvel multiverse of the 80's. There is your limit.
How many scans of Beyonder imposed limitations on himself havent you seen already?
Beyonder was the avatar of the Editor-in-chef, he could be as powerful as he wanted to be.
Mxyztplk is shit under Pre-retcon Beyonder's shoe.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. The Ultimator was the Tength dimension. The 9th, 8th, 7th, and 6th don't exist. The higher ones still do.
So DC don't have the 3rd dimension anymore?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So Marvel don't have the 3rd dimension anymore?

What are you talking about? The Ultimator is from DC. and it is the Culmination of all of the dimensions 10 and Under. It was eating the dimensions but they still exist becuz he still exist.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What are you talking about? The Ultimator is from DC. and it is the Culmination of all of the dimensions 10 and Under. It was eating the dimensions but they still exist becuz he still exist. So why was the imp's scared of him?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
How many scans of Beyonder imposed limitations on himself havent you seen already?
Beyonder was the avatar of the Editor-in-chef, he could be as powerful as he wanted to be.
Mxyztplk is shit under Pre-retcon Beyonder's shoe.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU


And what do you think the purpose of mxy's creation was hmmm? Mxy is the comic book avatar of imagination gone wild. There is nothing a writer could do with mxy that would be PIS OR CIS becuz mxy can do any damned thing. He has even travelled to the real world under his own power. The pre retconned beyonder was dummer than mxy by far, and got his ass retconned. Some avatar of an editor and chief.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And what do you think the purpose of mxy's creation was hmmm? Mxy is the comic book avatar of imagination gone wild. There is nothing a writer could do with mxy that would be PIS OR CIS becuz mxy can do any damned thing. He has even travelled to the real world under his own power. The pre retconned beyonder was dummer than mxy by far, and got his ass retconned. Some avatar of an editor and chief.
1. Do you honestly belive he was in the real world
2. Jim Shooter isnt Marvel's editor-in-chef anymore.
3. Are we talking before or after the retcon?
4. Beyonder would outsmart Mxyztplk, easiley, he even lectured Reed Richards, while Mxyztplk frequently gets owned by Superman.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
1. Do you honestly belive he was in the real world
2. Jim Shooter isnt Marvel's editor-in-chef anymore.
3. Are we talking before or after the retcon?
4. Beyonder would outsmart Mxyztplk, easiley, he even lectured Reed Richards, while Mxyztplk frequently gets owned by Superman.

I'm done with you. You obviously have very limited knowlege of mxy. No need in debating this any further. You actually think Mxy get's pwned by Superman? LMAO. Mxy and Batmite laugh at Superman all the time. They make the rules and they do it all as a gag to pass they time. They are unlimited, omnipotent and utterly bored.

But Myx doesn't shine by his wisdom, he gets outsmarted all the time.

Anyways, pre retcon Beyonder is not stronger than the current LT, to put it simply the status he har is better.

Hey Nvr, I'm starting to think that the Spectre is not multiversal and Michael is not all that (get punked by Lucy), care to make any observations?

Originally posted by Bentley
But Myx doesn't shine by his wisdom, he gets outsmarted all the time.

Anyways, pre retcon Beyonder is not stronger than the current LT, to put it simply the status he har is better.

Hey Nvr, I'm starting to think that the Spectre is not multiversal and Michael is not all that (get punked by Lucy), care to make any observations?
Spectre Indeed is the wrath of God in all of the DCU multiverses.

Michael is the power of God in persona and the Arc Angel.

Mxy doesn't get outsmarted ever. He plays the game and makes the rule becuz he's bored. He showed this once when he didn't go away and told superman, he makes the rules.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Nah. Spectre if he wants to, pwns mxy by going around mxy's power. He simply depowers him. SOmetimes spectre acts like god's wrath and tries to fight and gets a joke played on him. mxy is kinda a funny creature. I don't know if mxy's powers are limited to the 5th. And i never said mxy pwned the ultimator. I said mxy was the only one who survived a blast from mxy. And I already know the limits of the beyonder. He was millions of times more powerful than the marvel multiverse of the 80's. There is your limit.

We don't know who many times more powerful we only now that oure own multiverse in 84 was a drop in the ocean in comparison with his multiverse, and thus his powers.

Not that It matter really If he meets Pre-retcon MM ore Mxy first he loses anyway.

Why is the Spectre different in the elseworlds if he is Multiversal? Is it true that the Spectre can punk Michael?

Originally posted by Bentley
Why is the Spectre different in the elseworlds if he is Multiversal? Is it true that the Spectre can punk Michael?
Because they're an inifinite amount of Spectre's throughout the whole DC Multiverse.The one in Else worlds is just an aspect of Spectre "Prime".

As for punking Michael only God can do that.
Spectre is more powerful no doubt,but the Presence wouldn't allow Spectre to win in a fight with michael.

So I'm guessing we should start calling him Multi-Spectre or something.

Originally posted by Bentley
So I'm guessing we should start calling him Multi-Spectre or something.
Well in the comic he called himself Spectre "Prime".

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3937/thespectrev41105kq3.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5158/thespectrev41118ap8.jpg

Originally posted by Utrigita
We don't know who many times more powerful we only now that oure own multiverse in 84 was a drop in the ocean in comparison with his multiverse, and thus his powers.

Not that It matter really If he meets Pre-retcon MM ore Mxy first he loses anyway.

That would be the dummest assessment of things. Mr. Mxy has no quantifiable limit on his powers. He has never known defeat and has shown that he pierces the viel between the comics world and the real one. I think it's safe to assume the pre retconned beyonder wouldn't be beating mxy. If the beyonder was the representative of the editor and was everything out side of marvel, then mxy is the same and greater. He comes from a place that is Everything plus>>>>>>>> the DC 3rd dimension multiverse. And to boot, Mxy, actually drawn on panel leaving those confines under his own power and meeting the editor. It's pure fan boy ism to say the Beyonder would beat Mxy or Even the preretconned MM when niether have the feats to back it up, and only on panel hyperbole.

Mxyztplk has admitted defeat against Superman and Batman more than once.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Mxyztplk has admitted defeat against Superman and Batman more than once.

YOu realize Mxy and Batmite have laughed at those two. Mxy makes up the rules to the game and then let's supers win. Mxy is omnipotent. He has no time limit, or dimesional limit. He can see the future if he likes and know what clark is going to do. It's all a game to use up time in his infinite life.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That would be the dummest assessment of things. Mr. Mxy has no quantifiable limit on his powers. He has never known defeat and has shown that he pierces the viel between the comics world and the real one. I think it's safe to assume the pre retconned beyonder wouldn't be beating mxy. If the beyonder was the representative of the editor and was everything out side of marvel, then mxy is the same and greater. He comes from a place that is Everything plus>>>>>>>> the DC 3rd dimension multiverse. And to boot, Mxy, actually drawn on panel leaving those confines under his own power and meeting the editor. It's pure fan boy ism to say the Beyonder would beat Mxy or Even the preretconned MM when niether have the feats to back it up, and only on panel hyperbole.

Did I reply to Mxy powers do I didn't, replyed to the powers that Beyonder have at his Control, and that he put limits on himself, don't go accusing me of being a fanboy you previous posts about mxy and the constantly change of mind about him, is even more fanboy then my saying that I personally think that Pre retcon Beyonder would be above Mxy. If we take 84 it was a multiverse which would be a omniverse today he could play with, that would mean that when MM and Beyonder did do battle the entire Omniverse would have been trembling, have mxy done anything near that NO he hasn't he erased the dimensions below his own and his own 1,2,3,4,5 but none above. You cannot begin to make the assesment that because of him destroying those dimensions he is above Pre Ret Beyonder when the dimensions in marvel lies side by side.

Pre retcon beyonder was the writer at that time please tell me how you can be more then the writer ??? That would mean that Mxy is more powerful then TOAA Stan Lee and Jack Kirby by you own twisted logic.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If the beyonder was the representative of the editor and was everything out side of marvel, then mxy is the same and greater. He comes from a place that is Everything plus>>>>>>>> the DC 3rd dimension multiverse.

"Mxy comes from a place that is Everything"

So the 5th Dimension is "Everything?"


And even so because he comes from it makes him greater than a being that didn't only come but Was Everything Outside the Multiverse.

Everything Outside>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the Marvel Multiverse.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's pure fan boy ism to say the Beyonder would beat Mxy or Even the preretconned MM when niether have the feats to back it up, and only on panel hyperbole.

"Hyperbole?"


Like Beyonder obliterating Universes across the Multiverse just by pondering a thought?

Or like Beyonder taking a blast from MM that would have melted Billions of Universes?

(it made Beyonder cough Once)


Or like Beyonder creating from NOTHING an Endless Universe that expanded into a Multiverse?


Has Mxy ever created his OWN Multiverse, where he is everything in that Multiverse?

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Mxy comes from a place that is Everything"

So the 5th Dimension if "Everything?"


And even so because he comes from it makes him greater than a being that didn't only come but Was Everything Outside the Multiverse.

Everything Outside>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the Marvel Multiverse.



"Hyperbole?"


Like Beyonder obliterating Universes across the Multiverse just by pondering a thought?

Or like Beyonder taking a blast from MM that would have melted Billions of Universes?

(it made Beyonder cough Once)


Or like Beyonder creating an Endless Universe that expanded into a Multiverse from NOTHING?


Has Mxy ever created his OWN Multiverse, where he is everything in that Multiverse?
Let me explain something to you. Catch the vision. In JLA heaven's ladder, we see that any thing and I repeat anything from the third dimension appears to the imps as if they were children's drawings on paper. To be torn, shredded, created, redone. What ever they wish. I dont' give a damn if mxy hasn't created his OWN multiverse. He Destroyed and recreated the PResence's Omegaverse all on his own and then put it back together again. This feat trumps anythign the beyonder did. The beyonder had no resistance. He didn't much with anyone's stuff. He messed with the nothingness that was there. Mxy took God's entire creation, even the 5th and 4th worlds, and shook them apart, wiped them clean as if they had never existed, and then simply put it all back. Thanks. Good night.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' give a damn if mxy hasn't created his OWN multiverse.

So Mxy has Never created a Multiverse out of nothingness?

All he's done is Re-Create a Multiverse that had been.

Cool, I understand.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He Destroyed and recreated the PResence's Omegaverse

More like the Elseworld's Multiverse and nothing more.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
This feat trumps anythign the beyonder did.

If only it existed.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The beyonder had no resistance. He didn't much with anyone's stuff. He messed with the nothingness that was there.

Interesting,

I wonder what this is all about:

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8379/beyonderisrealitydw2.th.jpg

Beyonder make's TOAA's creation his, all of it.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4193/77510841fy6.th.jpg
"My Presence here affects the Multiverse a Graet Deal without my even knowing it"

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy took God's entire creation,

No he didn't but Beyonder did in Marvel.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
even the 5th and 4th worlds, and shook them apart, wiped them clean as if they had never existed, and then simply put it all back. Thanks. Good night.

I finally got my hands on World's Funnest, read it,

you should read it.

Mxy destroyed the Elseworlds Multiverse and nothing more.

Originally posted by Mr Master
So Mxy has Never created a Multiverse out of nothingness?

All he's done is Re-Create a Multiverse that had been.

Cool, I understand.




More like the Elseworld's Multiverse and nothing more.




If only it existed.




Interesting,

I wonder what this is all about:

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8379/beyonderisrealitydw2.th.jpg

Beyonder make's TOAA's creation his, all of it.




No he didn't but Beyonder did in Marvel.




I finally got my hands on World's Funnest, read it,

you should read it.

Mxy destroyed the Elseworlds Multiverse and nothing more.

You are so tarded it's rediculous. OMG. You are such a hater. you should reread it. He destroyed the main INFINITE earths. Remember when he said that. He destroyed the kingdom. He destroyed the dcau. And yes he took nothings, becuz he wiped it all way, and then just simply put it back. As in there was NOTHING. he wiped it ALL away. He says, It's ALL gone. Then he just puts it back. Now stop your hating. Your such a marvel fanboy it's incredible. Hyperbole aside, mxy has done more on panel. and that is why you try so hard to put his feats down.

OH by the way, the beyonder ranting isn't convincing me that he's God. Or above TOAA. Mxy is shown on panel defeating God's Omnipresent Messanger and then wiping everything away. On panel, its ALL gone. Repeat ALL. Not Elseworld's like you like to say. Get that out of your eye. Something is in your eye making you read the book wrong.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are so tarded it's rediculous. OMG. You are such a hater. you should reread it.

Again:

Originally posted by Mr Master
I finally got my hands on World's Funnest, read it,

you should read it.

Mxy destroyed the Elseworlds Multiverse and nothing more.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He destroyed the main INFINITE earths. Remember when he said that.

He meant the Elseworlds Multiverse.

The whole story took place in the Elseworlds Multiverse, after all,

it's an Elseworlds production.


I was wondering how you located Mxy in DC's Prime Multiverse Hypertime, when I went throught the issue, I realized Mxy NEVER touched that.

Mxy went through and did exactly what those types of Comics allow,

"Things that Shouldn't happen," like Mxy going to the "Real World" ...

Or things that Wouldn't happen like Mxy destroying that Multiverse.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He destroyed the kingdom.

He destroyed Kingdom Come, a Reality within the ElseWorld's Multiverse.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He destroyed the dcau.

I have the issue now, tell me the page, because for the life of me I can't find anything depicting or mentioning the Animated Universe or Multiverse.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And yes he took nothings, becuz he wiped it all way, and then just simply put it back. As in there was NOTHING. he wiped it ALL away. He says, It's ALL gone.

Big deal,

Thanos said the same thing and you call it a Single Universe:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/991/allhecouldum7.th.jpg
"Nothing remained"

Originally posted by Mr Master
Again:






He meant the Elseworlds Multiverse.

The whole story took place in the Elseworlds Multiverse, after all,

it's an Elseworlds production.


I was wondering how you located Mxy in DC's Prime Multiverse Hypertime, when I went throught the issue, I realized Mxy NEVER touched that.

Mxy went through and did exactly what those types of Comics allow,

"Things that Shouldn't happen," like Mxy going to the "Real World" ...

Or things that Wouldn't happen like Mxy destroying that Multiverse.




He destroyed Kingdom Come, a Reality within the ElseWorld's Multiverse.




I have the issue now, tell me the page, because for the life of me I can't find anything depicting or mentioning the Animated Universe or Multiverse.




Big deal,

Thanos said the same thing and you call it a Single Universe:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/991/allhecouldum7.th.jpg
"Nothing remained"

Let me correct you master. becuz it's apparent that your knowlege is very LIMITED in certain areas. There is only ONE mxy. That's the first point. Next, the else worlds were all legitimized as being real universes that actually exist, with first, the Kingdom, which was abandoned by DC, and then revitalized again, and then By IC. to which it showed the elseworlds titles in the cosmic time crystal. Superboy prime created the alternate realities shown in else worlds with his retcon punch. Thanks Good night. You are NOT going to tell me about the DC cosmos. THanks a bunch. Go back to being the master of marvel.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
OH by the way, the beyonder ranting isn't convincing me that he's God. Or above TOAA.

Beyonder Creating and Becoming an Infinite Universe, that stretched into the Infinity Outside the Multiverse.

http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/6076/buni4xn9.th.jpg
"Masses form in the Void, Stars, Suns, and Planets...LIFE Arises"

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4980/b3oz3.th.jpg
"Meeting NO resistance in the INFINITE BEYOND"




"Within the New Universe, BEGAT (brought into existence) by Beyonder's Power"

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/5558/buni5it5.th.jpg
"Mortal Beings giving meaning to the INFINITY in which they dwell"




If Beyonder's Universe was an Ocean,

the Marvel Multiverse would have been a DROP of Water:

"A UNIVERSE to which OUR OWN is as a DROPLET of Water to the Ocean"
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6536/buni1sh8.th.jpg





Now ... OUR OWN is NOT the 616 Reality, it is the MULTIVERSE!



"Odd thing He had noticed about our Universe"
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4553/beyonderexploresthemulino2.th.jpg
"Namely that it is Many-Layered-composed of a seemingly Endless Number of Dimensions,

indeed, it is a MULTIVERSE"





In FACT,

Beyonder's Universe which was already FAR Greater than the Multiverse,
became a Multiverse itself:


Beyonder's Universe continued to expand further,

until it became a Multiverse itself:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4372/beyonderismultikh8.th.jpg

"Beyonder, the entity that embodied all the substance of Another Multiverse"

Originally posted by Mr Master
Beyonder Creating and Becoming an Infinite Universe, that stretched into the Infinity Outside the Multiverse.

http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/6076/buni4xn9.th.jpg
"Masses form in the Void, Stars, Suns, and Planets...LIFE Arises"

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4980/b3oz3.th.jpg
"Meeting NO resistance in the INFINITE BEYOND"





If Beyonder's Universe was an Ocean,

the Marvel Multiverse would have been a DROP of Water:

"A UNIVERSE to which OUR OWN is as a DROPLET of Water to the Ocean"
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6536/buni1sh8.th.jpg





Now ... OUR OWN is NOT the 616 Reality, it is the MULTIVERSE!



"Odd thing He had noticed about our Universe"
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4553/beyonderexploresthemulino2.th.jpg
"Namely that it is Many-Layered-composed of a seemingly Endless Number of Dimensions,

indeed, it is a MULTIVERSE"





In FACT,

Beyonder's Universe which was already FAR Greater than the Multiverse,
became a Multiverse itself:


Beyonder's Universe continued to expand further,

until it became a Multiverse itself:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4372/beyonderismultikh8.th.jpg

"Beyonder, the entity that embodied all the substance of Another Multiverse"

I know all of that. And yet, the beyonder met with no resistance. There was no one fighting him. There was no one property to which he usurped thier authority over. Oh by the way, Mxy did indeed wipe out all of DCu. if you had the book, you would know that DC hired all the artist who made each DC multiverse famous to draw that part of the story. Indeed the DCU animated was destroyed Too. Bruce Timm did the art for that part. I know my DC boo.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy did indeed wipe out all of DCu.

Negative,

he destroyed the Elseworlds' Multiverse, nothing more.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
if you had the book,

Indeed the DCU animated was destroyed Too. Bruce Timm did the art for that part. I know my DC boo.

Indeed, still waiting on that Page #.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Negative,

he destroyed the Elseworlds' Multiverse, nothing more.




Indeed, still waiting on that Page #.

LOL. Your pathetic. I will now stop arguing with you. I just told you that there is only one Mxy, and that the story was not contained to else worlds once the kingdom and IC legitimized the Elseworld's as Actual realities. which means that all the realities shown, where in fact the real things. I will let you continue to live in your marvel feat obsessed reality.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Man, I'm losing even harder than I thought was possible, this is making me look even more stupid, so I'll try making it look like it's his fault, by saying something no one would truley get what it means.
Translation*

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Translation*
Please dont' make your self look like more of a cock suker than I really am. LOL. He really did make himself look stupid. The story has all of the DCU's in it. All of them as in the entire DC omegaverse. He has done nothing but show that he is a fanboy worse than xmeat. Becuz he calls himself master and can't master when to shut up and learn. And you, his bootlicking cronie, bother me.

One other thing master, there is no such thing as the Else world's multiverse. Please learn about DC if your going to debate me. The Elseworld's belong to the Megaverse known as the Kingdom wich also houses The Tanget multiverse and others.

Could you explain what the hell you mean by Omegaverse?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Could you explain what the hell you mean by Omegaverse?

I'm giving a name to all the insane amounts of Multiverses and megaverses and alternate realties and higher dimensions DC has floating around. It's my own lil name for them.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
One other thing master, there is no such thing as the Else world's multiverse.

Please learn about DC if your going to debate me.

The Elseworld's belong to the Megaverse known as the Kingdom

wich also houses The Tanget multiverse and others.

Really, that's funny.

According to the Kingdom Arc,

it's just a Multiverse called Hypertime:

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...

the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,

(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"




Meh,

maybe you're right,

and DC the Company that puts these stories out is wrong. shifty

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm giving a name to all the insane amounts of Multiverses and megaverses and alternate realties and higher dimensions DC has floating around. It's my own lil name for them.
I believe the term is "Omniverse".

Originally posted by Mr Master
Really, that's funny.

According to the Kingdom Arc,

it's just a Multiverse called Hypertime:

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...

the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,

(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"




Meh,

maybe you're right,

and DC the Company that puts these stories out is wrong. shifty

Or maybe you should try keeping up. Did you read the DC giant 80 page special? Or catch IC? Did you read justice society? I'm betting you didn't. Did you read Superboy or flash with kingdom stories? Prolly not. Try catching up. Until then, it's no use in debating with you and ur using a scan from an old story that you probably don't own, to try and prove a point.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I believe the term is "Omniverse".

NO Omniverse, as it has always been, refers to the entire verse of all things fantasy. Star wars, DC, marvel, WIldstorm, dbz, all belong to the omniverse.

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman saves the Omniverse:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4233/adventuresofsuperman617fi2.th.jpg

Originally posted by King Kandy

Where the **** did that come from? That means Mister Master is really wrong about his lil scan. LOL. he says that all of reality is only a multiverse in DC. THanks. So DC had an omniverse too. I gotta look that one up.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Where the **** did that come from? That means Mister Master is really wrong about his lil scan. LOL. he says that all of reality is only a multiverse in DC. THanks. So DC had an omniverse too. I gotta look that one up.
Yeah... So I guess now you have to stop using the term "Omegaverse"...

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah... So I guess now you have to stop using the term "Omegaverse"...

Well hell. SO DC is an omniverse too. This puts everything in an even better perspective. Thanks. I must do research now.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That means Mister Master is really wrong about his lil scan. LOL.

he says that all of reality is only a multiverse in DC.

So DC had an omniverse too.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SO DC is an omniverse too.

Well let's see,

here we have a statement from some Scientist:

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1346/adventuresofsuperman617ts7.th.jpg





And here we have,

On Panel Art depicting the naked Fabric that is Hypertime and character statements,

WW, Batman, Superman and the rest are there, acknowledging Hypertime,

actually looking at Hypertime with their own eyes.


We have Hunter's words,

the guy who's actually looking after and protecting Hypertime:

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...

the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,

(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"



Which is more credible?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Well let's see,

here we have a statement from some Scientist:

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1346/adventuresofsuperman617ts7.th.jpg





And here we have,

On Panel Art depicting the naked Fabric that is Hypertime and character statements,

WW, Batman, Superman and the rest are there, acknowledging Hypertime,

actually looking at Hypertime with their own eyes.


We have Hunter's words,

the guy who's actually looking after and protecting Hypertime:

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3241/h1kp6.th.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3790/h2zn3.th.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2398/29141982td0.th.jpg

"Hypertime,

Parallel Timelines which comprise ALL REALITY ...

the Universe they (the Linear Men) oversee is actually Part of a Multiverse,

(Hypertime) an Infinite Realm of Parallel Worlds"



Which is more credible?
neither is more credible. Becuz we already know that hypertime couldn't just be a multiverse. Vertigo is part of DC and itself is a megaverse. Oops. Try again.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The pre retconned beyonder was dummer than mxy by far,

Interesting,

and yet of all the beings in the Multiverse

ONLY the Beyonder was able to figure out how to Re-Create Multi-Death.


By your logic every being in Marvel then, was a complete idiot.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
and got his ass retconned.

This is meaningless.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm done with you.

You obviously have very limited knowlege of mxy.

No need in debating this any further.

Yet,

we take the time to debate with you when you make your fantasy claims,

like the HOTI is just power, without Omniscience:
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Heart is only the power. The spectre has the cosmic senses along with it. He says so.

He was connected to everything. he knew everything.

So he had the power and the knowlege.

While On Panel Thanos's Cosmic Awareness spans the Omniverse:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9834/marveltheendbc0.th.jpg

"My Consciousness reached out to embrace the Infinite,

I was Everything,

bonded to Omni-Reality"

Originally posted by Mr Master
Interesting,

and yet of all the beings in the Multiverse

ONLY the Beyonder was able to figure out how to Re-Create Multi-Death.


By your logic every being in Marvel then, was a complete idiot.




This is meaningless.




Yet,

we take the time to debate with you when you make your fantasy claims,

like the HOTI is just power, without Omniscience:


While On Panel Thanos's Cosmic Awareness spans the Omniverse:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9834/marveltheendbc0.th.jpg

"My Consciousness reached out to embrace the Infinite,

I was Everything,

bonded to Omni-Reality"

Being aware is not knowlege. Had he known everything, he would have known he was being played. Try again.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Being aware is not knowlege. Had he known everything, he would have known he was being played. Try again.
If TOAA doesn't want to be known, he won't be known, regardless of whether it's Thanos, Spectre, or Uncle Ben looking for him.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Being aware is not knowlege. Had he known everything,

he would have known he was being played.

Try again.

What do you think Cosmic Awareness is?


Thanos knew everything in the Omniverse.

TOAA is beyond the Omniverse.


"Try again" ...

Originally posted by King Kandy
If TOAA doesn't want to be known, he won't be known, regardless of whether it's Thanos, Spectre, or Uncle Ben looking for him.



Thank you K,

perfect sense with simple wisdom.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy doesn't get outsmarted ever. He plays the game and makes the rule becuz he's bored. He showed this once when he didn't go away and told superman, he makes the rules.

I have a question that's been bothering me about this. Like you said, Mxy imposes the rules on himself. So, why in WF, when he destroys the 5th dimension, does he say that he can't be send back to the 5th dimension anymore if there is no 5th dimension?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I have a question that's been bothering me about this. Like you said, Mxy imposes the rules on himself. So, why in WF, when he destroys the 5th dimension, does he say that he can't be send back to the 5th dimension anymore if there is no 5th dimension?

he destroyed the 5th dimension in world's funnest.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
he destroyed the 5th dimension in world's funnest.

I know that, but his reasoning for destroying it was so he couldn't be sent back there again. He shouldn't need to do that. He would just need to stop the rules of his game.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I know that, but his reasoning for destroying it was so he couldn't be sent back there again. He shouldn't need to do that. He would just need to stop the rules of his game.

It may have to do with the fact that the imps, like the q, can over ride one imp and bring them back. I seem to remember mxy being on punishment once by the imp council or something like that. maybe the queen. it's been a while.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It may have to do with the fact that the imps, like the q, can over ride one imp and bring them back. I seem to remember mxy being on punishment once by the imp council or something like that. maybe the queen. it's been a while.

If they can override one imp, then Mxy shouldn't have been able to destroy the 5th dimension, I would think.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
If they can override one imp, then Mxy shouldn't have been able to destroy the 5th dimension, I would think.

I think it's some sort of rule thing. but he has constantly been shown to be the most powerful of the imps. he was the only one who was able to take a blast from the ultimator to the dome and even tho he was charred, he wasn't dead. I think batmite is the 2nd most powerful im. they both survived the destruction of everthing.

Jaspers against 10 billion Watchers

Originally posted by King Kandy
If TOAA doesn't want to be known, he won't be known, regardless of whether it's Thanos, Spectre, or Uncle Ben looking for him. That's bullshit. No one fvcks with Uncle Ben.

And I say he stops at Pr MM.

Going by the original list it's hard to say. I think MJJ can take it to Mxy, but he's after PR Beyonder.