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Marvel team gets an anonymous tip that a hydra drop is going down by the docks. Rumlow(not hydra for sake of fight) and Widow walk in on foot alert and on the ready while hawk is on the roof of a nearby warehouse playin sniper.

Meanwhile team arrow gets same tip about a drug deal going down. Canary and Diggle also head in on foot to check things out. Arrow is on the opposite nearby roof top.


Canary has her batons, widow has her electric shock stings. Both Rumlow and Diggle have one 9mm with no extra clips.

Barton and Oliver only have normal arrows.

The docks have plenty of cover and places for those down on the ground to hide (i.e. crates, containers). One could almost get lost down there.

The ledge of the rooftops also provide cover for the archers.

Basically a game of skill. Who are the better operatives and which team adapts to a bad situation the best.
Bloodlust.

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Anyway.

Marvel stomps. Widow/Hawkeye can solo.

I'd love to say Marvel wins, but honestly they don't have quite as much feats as team arrow. Rumlow > Diggle that's for certain. But I give the win to team Arrow because Oliver has shown more proficiency in stalking and sniping from rooftops than Hawkeye.

Hawkeye > GA

Widow > Canary

Marvel Soldier guy > DC Soldier guy

HE's feats are FAR better than GA's.

Widow takes Rumlow's gun and takes out the other team.

GA > Hawkeye, what did hawkeye really have? two trick shots?? Arrows been doin his thing for two seasons now and hes consistently shown perfect mastery of the bow, pretty good ninja type skills and that hes proficent at hand to hand, hawk got beat by widow and Ollie would smash widow

BW > BC, black canary didnt seem all that great a fighter on arrow

diggle > rumlow, diggle is way better with firearms than rumlows showing in TWS diggle would pick him off before rumlow could do the same to digs

team arrow 2

team shield 1

team arrow would win this

Originally posted by relentless1
GA > Hawkeye, what did hawkeye really have? two trick shots??

What exactly is your use of the words "trick shot" supposed to mean?

A useless attempt to somehow downplay Hawkeye's feats?

Those two shots dwarfs everything GA has done in 2 Seasons. Not even in the same league.

Quality over quantity.

I'll let Mindset tell you all about it.

Team Arrow takes this...

Originally posted by relentless1
GA > Hawkeye, what did hawkeye really have? two trick shots?? Arrows been doin his thing for two seasons now and hes consistently shown perfect mastery of the bow, pretty good ninja type skills and that hes proficent at hand to hand, hawk got beat by widow and Ollie would smash widow

BW > BC, black canary didnt seem all that great a fighter on arrow

diggle > rumlow, diggle is way better with firearms than rumlows showing in TWS diggle would pick him off before rumlow could do the same to digs

team arrow 2

team shield 1

team arrow would win this

Are you f ucking serious? Hawkeye had crazy shooting feats. Arrow regularly misses.

Hawkeye >>>> GA
Rumlow > Diggle
Black Widow >>>>> Canary

Marvel team absolutely stomps the Arrow team. Hell, Hawkeye could probably solo the entire Arrow team.

Hawkeye will get sniped by GA.

Originally posted by Placidity
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So its not just me then.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Hawkeye will get sniped by GA.

You gotta be trolling

Originally posted by Firefly218
You gotta be trolling

admittedly hawkeye gets seriously downplayed due to ppl merely liking the arrow show better.


Originally posted by FrothByte
Hawkeye will get sniped by GA.

clint has shown far better eyesight and accuracy than arrow

Originally posted by wallman77
admittedly hawkeye gets seriously downplayed due to ppl merely liking the arrow show better.




clint has shown far better eyesight and accuracy than arrow



Believe me, I love Arrow as much as the next guy. There's just no way Oliver is better then hawkeye though

Oliver has multiple feats of going up against other archers in dark rooftops and avoiding getting shot at. Can Hawkeye say the same?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Oliver has multiple feats of going up against other archers in dark rooftops and avoiding getting shot at. Can Hawkeye say the same?

Quality over quantity.

Just watching the few feats Hawkeye has, it's clear he's a better shooter than arrow. Hawkeye can hit incredibly fast moving targets without even looking. As a sniper, Hawkeye is way more precise than Oliver.

If you've seen Arrow, you know how often Oliver misses.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Quality over quantity.

Just watching the few feats Hawkeye has, it's clear he's a better shooter than arrow. Hawkeye can hit incredibly fast moving targets without even looking. As a sniper, Hawkeye is way more precise than Oliver.

If you've seen Arrow, you know how often Oliver misses.

Mindset I am disappointed.

More importantly, Jeremy Renner is disappointed.

Does Hawkeye ever actually miss even once in Avengers? The closest I remember to him "missing" is Loki catching his arrow.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Does Hawkeye ever actually miss even once in Avengers? The closest I remember to him "missing" is Loki catching his arrow.

widow dodge an arrow in their fight. thats the closest thing to him "missing"

Originally posted by Firefly218
Quality over quantity.

Just watching the few feats Hawkeye has, it's clear he's a better shooter than arrow. Hawkeye can hit incredibly fast moving targets without even looking. As a sniper, Hawkeye is way more precise than Oliver.

If you've seen Arrow, you know how often Oliver misses.

You have to take in context though. All those awesome shots that Hawkeye does? He made them against mostly inanimate objects that weren't actively trying to dodge his arrows.

Awesome shot made against the Hellicarrier? Yeah, hellicarrier wasn't trying to dodge him. Awesome shots made against the chitauri sleds? Yeah, those sleds weren't trying to dodge him, heck they weren't even attacking him.

So which targets did Hawkeye shoot at that were actively trying to evade his arrows? Black Widow and Loki, both times Hawkeye was unable to hit his targets.

Oliver Queen never missed hitting inanimate targets. Those few times that he did miss, it was against opponents that were fighting him, shooting at him and actively trying to avoid his shots. And guess what, Oliver also evaded getting hit by opponent's arrows. He even shoots his opponent's arrows out of mid-flight.

Hawkeye has a better shooting feat in his hellicarrier shot. Unfortunately, Clint won't be shooting at big, hovering inanimate objects here. Oliver Queen has the better feats in using archery during a fight, and that's what's going to count here.

Originally posted by FrothByte
You have to take in context though. All those awesome shots that Hawkeye does? He made them against mostly inanimate objects that weren't actively trying to dodge his arrows.

Awesome shot made against the Hellicarrier? Yeah, hellicarrier wasn't trying to dodge him. Awesome shots made against the chitauri sleds? Yeah, those sleds weren't trying to dodge him, heck they weren't even attacking him.

So which targets did Hawkeye shoot at that were actively trying to evade his arrows? Black Widow and Loki, both times Hawkeye was unable to hit his targets.

Oliver Queen never missed hitting inanimate targets. Those few times that he did miss, it was against opponents that were fighting him, shooting at him and actively trying to avoid his shots. And guess what, Oliver also evaded getting hit by opponent's arrows. He even shoots his opponent's arrows out of mid-flight.

Hawkeye has a better shooting feat in his hellicarrier shot. Unfortunately, Clint won't be shooting at big, hovering inanimate objects here. Oliver Queen has the better feats in using archery during a fight, and that's what's going to count here.

Do you remember hawkeye in the battle of New York? Those chitauri sleds may not have been actively paying attention to hawkeye, but at the speed they were traveling... at least 100 mph. For hawkeye to shoot a chitauri, one that was traveling 100 mph in a spaceship, without even looking its tremendous.

Also, black widow and Loki are 100 times greater than everyone GA has fought, with the exception of Slade.

Seriously though, targets inanimate or not, it's obvious hawkeye is a more precise shooter than Oliver.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Do you remember hawkeye in the battle of New York? Those chitauri sleds may not have been actively paying attention to hawkeye, but at the speed they were traveling... at least 100 mph. For hawkeye to shoot a chitauri, one that was traveling 100 mph in a spaceship, without even looking its tremendous.

Also, black widow and Loki are 100 times greater than everyone GA has fought, with the exception of Slade.

Seriously though, targets inanimate or not, it's obvious hawkeye is a more precise shooter than Oliver.

Still doesn't change the fact that Hawkeye has never hit a target that was actively trying to avoid getting hit. Oliver has.

Those sleds might have been going fast, but so what? I've already mentioned that Oliver has shot arrows out of the air, arrows that were shot at him. Arrows on regular hunting bows usually travel at 300 fps. That's faster than your 100 mph. And that's just your normal modern-day hunting bow. Oliver and his opponents probably use bows that have more power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1JCLHSq3k

goodnight ladies and gentlemen

Well Team Marvel still wins via 2/3. Now if folks like Merlin or Nessa were in this thread then I'd give it to team Arrow.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well Team Marvel still wins via 2/3. Now if folks like Merlin or Nessa were in this thread then I'd give it to team Arrow.

The sniper on the roof is the key player in this game. Whoever takes out the archer in the roof of the opposing team will have a huge advantage. So if Hawkeye is taken out (and I believe he will be) then team arrow will have the advantage.

Because although I consider Rumlow > Diggle and BW > BC, I do think they're close enough in skill to keep the fight going for some time.

Besides, it's not like Merlin is greatly more skilled than Oliver. They're very close in skill, with Merline slightly better.

Originally posted by FrothByte
The sniper on the roof is the key player in this game. Whoever takes out the archer in the roof of the opposing team will have a huge advantage. So if Hawkeye is taken out (and I believe he will be) then team arrow will have the advantage.

Because although I consider Rumlow > Diggle and BW > BC, I do think they're close enough in skill to keep the fight going for some time.

Besides, it's not like Merlin is greatly more skilled than Oliver. They're very close in skill, with Merline slightly better.
Oh I meant more on the line of Merlyn(w/sword) replacing Diggle @ Nyssa replacing BC. I was arguing that could turn the tide.

And if Hawkeye is taken out first, then that could also lead to Team Arrow having the advantage.