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As much as I agree, I must ask: Why do you think so?

Her screech will have him loose focus and her arrow will penetrate his skull..

I think her magic powers will destroy him with ease and her screech stop him from doing much at all, are her arrows magic?

She has magical arrows, but she also has enchanted arrows and normal arrows.

wish i had some of them magical arrows

Do not poke yourself with them though You can end up anything from dead to crippled

Cloud is so much faster IMO, I think he wins.

And if his speed won't do it for him, he sure as hell can whine until she kills herself.

So much faster? Sylvanas is so fast that her movement is nothing but a blurr, and she was capable of hitting several moving, slim object at the same time from roughly a kilometer away with bow and arrow (Well, I do not know about a kilometer, but she was only a dot in the distance in the eyes of those she helped)


He is a whiner? oh I have always thought of him as the cool, settled hero with everything under control

Originally posted by Becci
So much faster? Sylvanas is so fast that her movement is nothing but a blurr, and she was capable of hitting several moving, slim object at the same time from roughly a kilometer away with bow and arrow (Well, I do not know about a kilometer, but she was only a dot in the distance in the eyes of those she helped)


He is a whiner? oh I have always thought of him as the cool, settled hero with everything under control 1. Cloud is like that as well, only he can effortlessly while weakened block bullets from two superhuman foes. Bullets move almost twice as fast as the speed of sound.

2. Hahahahaha no. He is an emo kid, he went all emo and gay in AC, which is a year I think after FFVII, over a girl that died, a girl he never so much as hugged. Wowz.

1. I am sure he can. Although has he been proven resistant to high volumes? Sylvanas more or less break stone with her screams, which are magically enhanced to penetrate the mind and affect the target in such a way that focus is lost and abilities are prevented from usage. Her scream alone has forced people to their knees. She can keep it up constantly, giving her a from beginning to end advantage in the fight.

Originally posted by Becci
1. I am sure he can. Although has he been proven resistant to high volumes? Sylvanas more or less break stone with her screams, which are magically enhanced to penetrate the mind and affect the target in such a way that focus is lost and abilities are prevented from usage. Her scream alone has forced people to their knees. She can keep it up constantly, giving her a from beginning to end advantage in the fight. Using science and stuffs, since bullets break the sound barrier, in actuality, they would deafen and disorient you when fired near you, and he blocks them with ease.

Speedblitz + an insane damage soak + the most powerful Materias in the world = an easy victory for Cloud.

Again, has he been seen resistant to high volumes?

And from what I have seen of Cloud so far, he is fast but will not be able to blitz Sylvanas.

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Cloud can block or dodge any of her melee attacks, seeing as how bullets move far faster than arrrows, and he had no trouble dealing with them. Any of her magical attacks would be stopped if CLoud used a barrier materia.

And Cloud is a whole lot faster than her. Omnislash v5 from Advent Children happens in the blink of an eye according to FF VII and its compilations creators, and that's enough time for Cloud to use 6 powerful slashes.

Cloud takes this very easily.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
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Cloud can block or dodge any of her melee attacks, seeing as how bullets move far faster than arrrows, and he had no trouble dealing with them. Any of her magical attacks would be stopped if CLoud used a barrier materia.

And Cloud is a whole lot faster than her. Omnislash v5 from Advent Children happens in the blink of an eye according to FF VII and its compilations creators, and that's enough time for Cloud to use 6 powerful slashes.

Cloud takes this very easily.

Too bad for Cloud that Sylvanas scream prevent all types of abilities. His barrier will be dispelled and he will be dropped on his knees holding his head from her scream, as no one seem to have anything about his resistance to high volumes and silencing effects. She does not have magical attacks, so his barrier would not do him much good anyway.

Is Cloud faster? Please show me, and do not bring the fight against Sephiroth in AC up, because she is faster than that.

It does not matter if Cloud can fight bullets, because if he is on his knees holding his head then his speed will not do him much good. She will disorient him, confuse him and impale him with an arrow without him having much chance to stop her.

And I have seen that omnislash. As awesome an attack as it is, it would never hit her. She is too fast, for like it or not, but it was a slow attack.

Sylvanas takes this. Not easily, but she takes it.

Too bad for Cloud that Sylvanas scream prevent all types of abilities. His barrier will be dispelled and he will be dropped on his knees holding his head from her scream, as no one seem to have anything about his resistance to high volumes and silencing effects. She does not have magical attacks, so his barrier would not do him much good anyway.

I'm afraid not. Cloud's barrier would be able to stop her scream. Magic barriers in FF VII block powerful attacks like firaga and hold back stagnant lifestream as CC and DoC show us, a banshee scream wouldn't be able to put a scratch on it.

Is Cloud faster? Please show me, and do not bring the fight against Sephiroth in AC up, because she is faster than that.

Sorry, wrong again. Cloud's Omnislash happens in the blink of an eye, thats straight from the mouths of the creators. Sylvanus can't perform on attack in the blink of an eye, much less six.

It does not matter if Cloud can fight bullets, because if he is on his knees holding his head then his speed will not do him much good. She will disorient him, confuse him and impale him with an arrow without him having much chance to stop her.

LOL, because an arrow would do anything but tickle Cloud. He was shot right through the chest in AC and still had the strenght to charge Loz and Yazoo. He was stabbed through the shoulder by Sephiroth in AC without any significant injury, and at his weakest, when he's merely an un enhanced grunt, he takes the Masamune completely though his chest, right in the middle of the torso, and has the strength to throw an injured Sephiroth into the lifestream. All of these wounds are far greater than anything an arrow could do, and Cloud took them like they weren't a big deal. I wouldn't be surprised if arrows bounced off of him.


And I have seen that omnislash. As awesome an attack as it is, it would never hit her. She is too fast, for like it or not, but it was a slow attack.

Once again, the creators said it happens in the blink of an eye, notice how Sephiroth acts like he's moving in extreme slow motion? They know a little more about their movie than someone who's never picked up FF VII.

Sylvanas takes this. Not easily, but she takes it.

Except for the fact that she couldn't touch Cloud, and he has multiple attacks that finish her off in less than 3 hits. Cloud would wtfpwn her and she would like it.

You obviously have not read the Sunwell Triology. Sylvanas can disappear at the blink of an eye, so your creators did not make Clould all superior to Sylvanas. Her speed match that of Omnislash if what you say is correct and she can flee.

The barrier of Cloud is nothing but a barrier of magic, which no matter what you think, Sylvanas can dispel. You can mix however many FF terms you want into it, but she will still be able to dispel it. Just because it can handle the "lifestream" does not make it invincible. Especially for one that can prevent any form of ability from carry effect.

Has Cloud ever survived a shot in the head?

Less than 3 hits? Fair enough, although he will never hit her, so his three hits means nothing.

Becci, becci, becci. Sylvanus disappearing isn't going to help her. Cloud can attack with 6 slashes in the time it takes her to run away, that's not exactly impressive or even an advantage. Cloud would take sylvanus down in less than a minute, that's just the way it would go down given both of their abilities.

How is one "blink of an eye" feat faster than another "blink of an eye" feat? Especially since one is an ability and another is a constant movement.

What we saw in AC, was Cloud's normal speed. But he can use Materia to enhance it, you know.

Cloud uses his superior speed to summon Shiva. She freezes Sylvanas, and then Cloud summons Bahamut to explode her with his Mega Flare.

whats with all these Warcraft vs Final fantasy threads

<i>How is one "blink of an eye" feat faster than another "blink of an eye" feat? Especially since one is an ability and another is a constant movement.</i>

One causes the user to disappear, that's one simple action. The other allow the user to hit with six extraordinarily powered slashes. Most people would say that means its 6 times faster, and that because it can be used offensively, it ends the fight quick.

Originally posted by SHM
What we saw in AC, was Cloud's normal speed. But he can use Materia to enhance it, you know.

Cloud uses his superior speed to summon Shiva. She freezes Sylvanas, and then Cloud summons Bahamut to explode her with his Mega Flare.

what lmao? you actually think CLoud is going to get a summon off? I laugh at him even starting the spell before her screech instantly knocks him to his knees, lol summon indeed, he couldnt do a the lowest materia most likely

Originally posted by Mairuzu
whats with all these Warcraft vs Final fantasy threads

It is the latest thing, since fascistcrusader claim Sephiroth to kill Sargeras in one strike.

The moment FC came to this thread is the moment I said fvck this thread.

Originally posted by Burning thought
what lmao? you actually think CLoud is going to get a summon off? I laugh at him even starting the spell before her screech instantly knocks him to his knees, lol summon indeed, he couldnt do a the lowest materia most likely

Oh yeah, because Cloud will stand there doing nothing, just waiting for her to scream.
Cloud uses Ice Materia to freeze her in place in an instant. Then after she breaks free, he already summoned Bahamut and is all over.

I'm tired of seeing you talk like each spell of FF takes 1 hour to cast. I already proved to you that most of them are instant in the story. You are basing your argument on gameplay mechanics.

And lets say she screams. Cloud gets a little disoriented, then very pissed, and then is Omnislash Version 5 on her face.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Bullets move almost twice as fast as the speed of sound. ...

Do FF bullets move faster than the regular sort...?

The fastest bullet in the world is 1220 m/s.

That's nearly 4 times the speed of sound.

what lmao? you actually think CLoud is going to get a summon off? I laugh at him even starting the spell before her screech instantly knocks him to his knees, lol summon indeed, he couldnt do a the lowest materia most likely

If you want to use gameplay like that then Cloud disappears the second he casts it. There would be nothing for her to scream at, just a very powerful blast hitting her.

The moment FC came to this thread is the moment I said fvck this thread.

Its ok, I know deep down I'm your hero.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
The fastest bullet in the world is 1220 m/s.

That's nearly 4 times the speed of sound. That's right in between Mach 3 and 4, yes.

But, unless you delve into sniper technology and such, most bullets are under Mach 1 (the speed of sound).

EDIT: On a side note, some rifle bullets have reached 1500 m/s, I believe

Faster than I thought then.

FFVII is a futuristic world, and those bullets were fired from futuristic guns, I don't think it's a stretch to say they>sound.

I vote letting WOW stay in their own little WOW characters own all. Cloud loses focus. Well i guess that would be the same as confusion and cloud has delt,fought pass, and dispell confusion before. Cloud freezes time and wtf pwns her.

Originally posted by SHM
Oh yeah, because Cloud will stand there doing nothing, just waiting for her to scream.
Cloud uses Ice Materia to freeze her in place in an instant. Then after she breaks free, he already summoned Bahamut and is all over.

I'm tired of seeing you talk like each spell of FF takes 1 hour to cast. I already proved to you that most of them are instant in the story. You are basing your argument on gameplay mechanics.

And lets say she screams. Cloud gets a little disoriented, then very pissed, and then is Omnislash Version 5 on her face.

Well he wont have much choice, unless you can prove he can do anything faster than she can open her mouth to scream, he hasnt slowed time to a crawl during this battle, she is moving and acting just as he is

You didnt prove most...not a chance, you proved that in the cinematics Sephiroth made a tiny shield quickly, ive never used gameplay mechanics, if i use gameplay mechanics then Cloud has to w8 his turn....thats game mechanics, if i use game mechanics, cloud has to select what powers hes going to use while the opponent is wailing on him, thats game mechanics, the game is not affected by balance, mechanics or anything else, nto even players during the cast time.

No because she can constantly scream, so Cloud will be out for the count half the time if not on his knees

Originally posted by SHM
And lets say she screams. Cloud gets a little disoriented, then very pissed, and then is Omnislash Version 5 on her face.

Her screech is a silencing effect. His omnislash is an ability. She will disable it. All Cloud has is his natural capacity and his natural fighting. No enhancements, abilities or spells will work.

Originally posted by Csdabest
I vote letting WOW stay in their own little WOW characters own all. Cloud loses focus. Well i guess that would be the same as confusion and cloud has delt,fought pass, and dispell confusion before. Cloud freezes time and wtf pwns her. WoW characters are much more powerful than FFVII characters though.

Burning, how the attacks are performed and their speed, is game mechanics too. Like a fire spell for example, that in the game it appears instantly on the enemy, but in the story the characters have to shoot a ball of fire. I already explained that to you.



Yep. If we go by Burning's logic that, gameplay = story, that's exactly what will happen.