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This thread is similar to the Red Son arc. Three identical baby Supermen crash lands someplace other than Smallville and raised by three single fathers.

Superman A) Latveria and was raised by Dr. Doom
Vs
Superman B) Sanctuary. Thanos raises baby Kal El instead of Gamora
Vs
Superman C) Egypt, raised by Apocalypse.

The three are fighting in an indestructible UFC Octagon scaled up ten times. Fight to the death. All three know they are being raised for combat, but don't know who their opponents are. Fight takes place on their twentieth birthday.
1. PC Supermen
2. DCnU Supermen
3. Loebforce Supermen

Ok...so hmm are the power levels for all or is Dooman PC and Thanosman DCNU and so on?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Ok...so hmm are the power levels for all or is Dooman PC and Thanosman DCNU and so on? Power levels are the same initially, the ony difference is upbringing and who trained them to use their powers. Doom tech, celestial tech, and Thanos tech are available. As are any combat related skills that may be learned.

I'd go with Thanos raised Kal.

I mean in a lot of ways all three "fathers" are similar, but out of the three Thanos is the only one who I'd argue would care enough to train Kal to reach his potential rather than just as the means to an end, ala Gamora.

Essentially I imagine Thanos would be the one to see Kal as more of a person than a weapon, and would train/raise him with in line with that; which imo would make the difference.

I mean sure a similar argument could be made for Doom, with the comparison of Kristoff with Gamora- but I think there you can see the difference in that Doom kept Kristoff around so he could use him as a backup for his own brain as opposed to what seemed like genuine affection from Thanos.

Apocalypse Kal, Thanos and Doom will hold him back...

Apoc, I think he is most likely to hand out the bigest uppgrades. He might even make an exception and honor supes with becoming his new host even if he is no Homo Superior.

Doom is too selfish to push Kal to his full potential and for all Gamora`s training and deadliness Thanos did not nearly enhance her nearly as much as he could have.

Superman B because the Father/Son chats would be so amusing.

"Hey, Dad. Remember that one time you dropped the cosmic cube? You were all like 'Oh no!' and then tripped over yourself after you made with the earth shaking. Then Spiderman stole i--"

"Silence, Kal-El, or I won't let you borrow the Infinity Gauntlet."

"Well, I thought it was funny."

If Doom wants his Superman to win, his Superman will win.

If Doom was intelligent -let's assume he is for the sake of the argument-, he'd teach Kal magic, which would come to be extremely useful against the Supermen he's facing. Then Kal would put an S on his chest that would stand for "Sorcerer Supreme".

Originally posted by Bentley
If Doom was intelligent -let's assume he is for the sake of the argument-, he'd teach Kal magic, which would come to be extremely useful against the Supermen he's facing. Then Kal would put an S on his chest that would stand for "Sorcerer Supreme". Don't feel insecure about Kang being insignificant.

Originally posted by Bentley
If Doom was intelligent -let's assume he is for the sake of the argument-, he'd teach Kal magic, which would come to be extremely useful against the Supermen he's facing. Then Kal would put an S on his chest that would stand for "Sorcerer Supreme". That is what I was thinking.

I would give it to doom superman if he was tought magic but honestly given how doom is I would figure he would find out his weakness and keep the magic as a trump card. If he teach him anything I'm not sure to what level it would be so it's effectiveness is a bit questionable but still a edge against other supermen.

Thanos? Good teacher/father figure. My top pick. Superman herald of death! Woo! Other than training and good ol fatherly Care I'm not sure what he would gain beside unspecified tech.

What could apocalypse give superman? Celestial tech? Armor? Make him a horsemen? Guess I don't know much about him him to be a good judge. If he can upgrade him like he did to hulk (war hulk) then that's something I'd like to see.

Good thread
I say Doom. That superman would become absolutely ruthless which would serve him well in a fight. Plus if he could be taught to learn magic close to dooms level he would be far more dangerous than the other two.

Second would be apocalypse, for the potential augmentation and possible celestial tech.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Apoc, I think he is most likely to hand out the bigest uppgrades. He might even make an exception and honor supes with becoming his new host even if he is no Homo Superior.

Doom is too selfish to push Kal to his full potential and for all Gamora`s training and deadliness Thanos did not nearly enhance her nearly as much as he could have. This is the best post. Awesome!

Kal Von Doom would win.
I mean it would essentially be doom with clarks powers on top of that.

Kal Von Doom:
Kryptonian Abilties
Magic
Tech
Genius Level intellect
Evil as phuck
Not a news reporter

ApocyMan would be relentless and probably be the strongest physically, DoomerMan would be devious and probably have at least a modest knowledge of magic, ThanosMan would probably be brilliant and a significant combat training advantage.

Originally posted by Mindset
If Doom wants his Superman to win, his Superman will win. This

I imagine Doom giving Supes the type of armor SMP had just a solar generating/battery suit. And plus magic and being taught to be clever and ruthless at the same time.

Not sure what thanos would do. Train him maybe do some genetic engineering on him maybe?

Apoc would def give him some in enhancements but dooms would be better. I don't think apoc would be able to make him as cunning or combat efficient as doom.

So Superman gets the same fighting skills as Gamora, random upgrades inside of him and some other random shit?

Plus he actually has superpowers already unlike Gamora so they'd likely be some expansion on that as well, especially with the whole sun thing

Doom would probably kill the other two Superman long before they reached their 20th birthday. Not out of any fatherly concern for Doom jr, but just because it's good to use other people's property for testing.

As for this fight:

Apoc-o-supes - tech that neither father nor son can understand, but that somehow "works". big ideas about personal significance that hinder ... actual significance. and ability to show fright in the presence of rapidly moving furniture.

he'd be the first to fail.

Thano-supe - Probably ends up like Orion, nothing special, father sees him as a potential problem and out of 'love' keeps a cool detached distance from him. Perfunctory training in martial techniques and some minor augmentation would be about the limits of what Thanos would deign to give.

Doom... well, his ego would possess Superman, thus making him part of the personage of Doom. That's all it would require really. Doom's ego in Superman's body.

Can Kryptonians use magic? I've wondered about that.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Can Kryptonians use magic? I've wondered about that.

Based off ' if their weak against it can they use it?' I would say yes most likely.
Humans are weak against magic and have no resistance and can wield it.

Kryptonians are weak agnainst kryptonite but use knives made of the stuff and I might be recalling wrong but I think they had some sort of anti kryptonian gun that might of worked of the stuff. (or red sun light either way it's a weakness)
Harnessing the green stuff seems more dangerous than magic but they do it so I'm sure magic is a go.


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Originally posted by Endless Mike
Can Kryptonians use magic? I've wondered about that. I don't see why not. Humans are weak against guns and knives, but we use them all the time.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Can Kryptonians use magic? I've wondered about that.
Yes, they can. There was a mention of kryptonian sorcerers in Superman:blood of my ancestors IIRC.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
I would give it to doom superman if he was tought magic but honestly given how doom is I would figure he would find out his weakness and keep the magic as a trump card. If he teach him anything I'm not sure to what level it would be so it's effectiveness is a bit questionable but still a edge against other supermen.

Thanos? Good teacher/father figure. My top pick. Superman herald of death! Woo! Other than training and good ol fatherly Care I'm not sure what he would gain beside unspecified tech.

What could apocalypse give superman? Celestial tech? Armor? Make him a horsemen? Guess I don't know much about him him to be a good judge. If he can upgrade him like he did to hulk (war hulk) then that's something I'd like to see. At first I agreed but after deeply pondering and mediating on the issue I am gonna have to change my vote to Apocalypse or Thanos. Kal-pacolypse would be devastatingly brutal, especially after twenty years of "only the strong will survive" being drilled into his head. He would be very powerful and mentally unstable, a dangerous combination.
Doom's biggest advantage is his sorcery. However IMO Doom is too paranoid to teach Kal-Doom anything too powerful out of paranoia.
Thanos on the other hand also has some familiarity with magic as well, albeit not as much as Doom or Strange. Thanos is also more mentally stable and intelligent than the other two. Rather than withholding information like Doom would do, Thanos would teach him all he could, but then put a bomb in his head just in case. Thanos took a little girl, not much different than a standard human child, and turned her into the most dangerous woman in the universe. Just imagine what he could accomplish using Kryptonian physiology.