Ghost Rider (god form) Vs. Rune King Thor
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Board Walker
This is Ghost Rider when he was basically "god", having the full power of Yahweh + the demons
Versus
Rune King Thor
8swords
never heard of this GR before, which issue is it from?
ShadowFyre
Im not to sure about this GR either. I kniw when he is fully unleashed there is not many people that can hang with him. But RKT is above Odin by a decent margin. Hmmm
Im gonna have to read GRs respect forum on this god mode before I give my answer.
operator616
Are you sure you're not thinking of Zadkiel?
Because he's the one who took over heaven after taking the power of all ghost rider. And then usurped the power of God himself. He didn't achieve absolute omnipotence, because his power grew with time, but it's stated several times that he would have the power over all creation/existence in MU. Though he was beaten before he achieved omnipotence at the end of Heaven's on Fire arc (2010).
ShadowFyre
Its wierd that ghost rider stories deal with a christian god with all of the other religious mythos in marvel.
RockofAges
Are you essentially comparing an omniscient being with Rune King Thor? Because if that is the case I applaud you for a level of fanboyism previously unheard of in the known universe.
ShadowFyre
No. Im talking about how Marvel deals with "gods" and religion in general. Rune King Thor was just omnipotent I believe. Not even comparing them really.
operator616
Rune King Thor wasn't omnipotent, not sure where you're getting this from.
While in Ghost Rider they chose to portray Yahweh as being an omnipotent God, In other depictions, Yahweh is just another skyfather, and is not the omnipotent God.
Mindset
Originally posted by operator616
Rune King Thor wasn't omnipotent, not sure where you're getting this from.
While in Ghost Rider they chose to portray Yahweh as being an omnipotent God, In other depictions, Yahweh is just another skyfather, and is not the omnipotent God. Such as?
Didn't they treat him as omnipotent in F4?
RockofAges
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Its wierd that ghost rider stories deal with a christian god with all of the other religious mythos in marvel.
I wasnt talking to you, I was talking to the original poster
operator616
Originally posted by Mindset
Such as?
Didn't they treat him as omnipotent in F4?
What if #32.
Nah, that was the literal comic book artist "God" not Yahweh, who we saw in FF #511, the FF's Ultimate Guide handbook says: sketched out reality the same way a comic book artist would:
http://i.imgur.com/lPtL8DZ.jpg?1
Mindset
A comic book artist isn't in heaven doe.
the Darkone
There all different levels of omnipotent and omniscient in Marvel U which RKT was for Elder God level being.
Branlor Swift
Originally posted by Mindset
Such as?
Didn't they treat him as omnipotent in F4? Yes. He also talked to Spider-Man too. Gave him a nice pep talk
Though he can appear in whatever form he wants
Board Walker
Hmm maybe I was mixing them up, wasn't there an arc where Yahweh (where Ghost Rider's power comes from) fully empowers Ghost Rider with his entire being? I remember Ghost Rider fighting and defeating entities like Mephisto, Dormammu, Shuma Gorath etc.
operator616
it wasn't until the 6th volume (#18) where it's said GR to be the wrath of God, an angel, which btw happened in the same volume where Zadkiel conquered heaven and then continued to usurp God and get defeated in Heaven's on fire.
And im pretty sure he never fought Shuma neither Dormammu, or Mephisto with Yahweh's full power.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Yes. He also talked to Spider-Man too. Gave him a nice pep talk
Though he can appear in whatever form he wants
He was asking whether they treated Yahweh as omnipotent in Fantastic Four, in which case it's a no (since it was TOAA and not Yahweh), TOAA is a different character.
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